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Any Revolutionaries in Skandinavia?

Discussion in 'New members introductions' started by [email protected], Nov 11, 2009.

  1. horke.lavento@gmail.com

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    \m/ Yeah. I'm 41 years old "young and angry man" from south-eastern Finland. As my early experiencies with music and youth-coulture started 1978 with punk rock music (yeah I was just a kid back then) and my inerest towards social questions and will for justice led me to be politically active almoust in same age. As a 15 years old teen I discovered anarchism as a social program and collection of means for human kind to manage themselves... so away with marxist-leninist authoritarian and narrow-minded "radical left". In coming yaers I was active starting the first sicnificant anarchist organisation, which became known as Finnish Anarcho-Syndicalist Federation- SAL - IWA and editing a few finnish libeertarian rags VTY, Vapaustaistelija and Kapinatyöläinen.
    Late 80 and 1990 we had groups and activists in all major cities and active membership was grouwing - our paperwasthe most popular "alternative publication" in country - so it was time to get arguing and splitting... ha... well class-struggle oriented anarchists form a propaganda group that took the name of brittish Class War - and took the propaganda to same level with humorous, and down to earth practical class issues wih libertarian way.... I was with this lot. .. After the organisations came downand people weent to their ways - some forming families, some careers, some tried their wings in leftist polical parties - I had time for my firstlove punk. And still I consider myself a punk. And as I am an anarchist - so I must be anarcho-punk and this lovely webforum is just like made for me.
    I'm interedted in having contacts with insurrectionalist revolutionary anarchists in nordic countries. I'm not ecowarrior- nor do I think that anarchism has anything to do with baning people to eat what they want. So I'm not interested in anyones decisions concerning food or whether to consume alcohol and drugs or not. I m looking for group of people to start discussions and plannings for a revolutionary movent to be real meneace to this fucking post-industrialist capitalism. I belive that change is always violent thing and those in power shall use all means to defend priviliges - so violance will be part of revolutionary movements tactics also. A. Bonnanos pamphlet From Riotto Insurrection has some very interestin ideas to coonsider. Also some british one off puplications like ATTACK - and flamethrower etc. have been excelent reading... post-industrial capitalism has some new and mean features. Classes are redirected and the strengh of prolletariat is taken away by divide and rule. A new underclass - people outside of employment- outside of norm society has been created. Same time a modern developed capitalist societies take traditional industrial labour to third world and the workers who actually have job are more and more propagated to feel to be priviliged, higly educated engineers rather than proletariat. On the other hand a growing masses of people are living on wellfarebenefitsand having nothing to do with tradituional labour movement. These are the facts that force us as revolutionaries to develop our struggle.
    Lets give fear ruling classes! Fuck the police Fire and flames for all governments !! Horke
     

  2. ASA

    ASAExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Yea so what about the dolphins and rare eco species concerned with the system.

    by the way Hello but not from scandanavia, cheers
     
  3. rebel

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    welcome,
    as i know, there are no insurrectionists in Scandinavia, there are Anti-Fa and Autonomen, they are the only ones who burn Denmark, and Uppsala in Sweden, together with foreigners. They are the only ones who are out of control of secret agency. the rest of movement are students who make blabla and most of them are against "extremism" it means against burning.

    I am not agreed that something is changed, it depend with whom you are. PhD people speak that something is changed but they are with NGO activists, they are not connected with workers. France, Germany, Italy... they are full of workers the same as before 100 years, and they are in trouble because industry is moving in other continents, but it doesn't mean that something is changing and they are still potential for revolution. I don't see that welfare benefits people are not good for revolution. workers can be counter revolutionary the same as those who enjoy welfare benefits. there were always revolutionary workers and those who kissed in ass big bosses, there is no rule about it. our job is to initiate rebellion and educate people who are interested for it.

    greetings,
    rebel
     
  4. GFSM

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    sorry couldn't resist. btw, "coming" has one "m".
     
  5. rebel

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    never mind, I don't understand what means: autobots.
     
  6. Hex

    HexExperienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    ROFL!!! :lmao:
     
  7. ampallang

    ampallangActive Member Forum Member


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    Im in DK.. I dont think im very active doing things here.. i get bored with all the talking.. and talking about things.. and then actually doing something at the last minute...

    Anarcho stuff.. is something within its self, but it connects to other things even veganism, eco activists and more.
    But I love talking with people from finland, I just had some activists here.. from turku? I need to go to finland!
     
  8. ASA

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    u a mozzie
     
  9. ungovernable

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    i don't understand the "autobots" thing neither :S

    Welcome horke.lavento ! I heard a lot about Class War organisation in UK, it looks awesome ! I actually have a patch of it on the back of my hat, haha
     
  10. horke.lavento@gmail.com

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    Nice! There has been some replyes and some discussion has been created. ! Really This is to became my favourite punk-oriented site... Really.. If you would kno the topics and writing in finnish Punk in Finland (or PiF) forum... Theres only stupid chitchat and ultra-conservative opinions and childish teen-humour and so ... If You try to have a serious topic - you will not get it. All comments are just terrorising it down. There seems to be a trend in finnish punk against all political and social-conscious tendencies...

    But anyway hay hay ... I have to go to serve a prison sentence next mounth. If I remember it right, I have to go Konnunsuo Jail in eastern Finland on 8th of March. So I wonder if threre are person/s who know the ways of writing oldfashioned -snailmail-letters - I would be pleased to receive letters from you. The address is : Mr. Pekka "Horke" Lavento, KoV, Läykäntie 53, 54190 Konnunsuo Finland. I will serve about 5 - 12 mounths sentence. I don't know yet exactly as there is one trial pending. My crimes: posessing illegal substancies (drugs etc), hiding stolen preperty etc etc)... So please write a line or two if you find time. SEnd a post-card... It makes time go faster... Horke
     
  11. Rathryn

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    Dude.... people NOT catching on to Autobots references? 0.o
    What's this world coming to?
    What kind of education to parents give their children these days?
    TRANSFORMERS people, TRANSFORMERS

    Oh and welcome Horke :)
     
  12. K-Townbootboy

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    Oi!

    Sure there are insurrectionist anarchists in both Denmark and the rest of Scandinavia. The term autonome is just a media classification of a broad group of people, and the only thing that makes you an autonom is your willingness to use violence in the political struggle.

    Good luck with the prison thing Horke.