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Anarchy? Autonomy?

Discussion in 'Anarchism and radical activism' started by trevor9849, Feb 15, 2011.

  1. trevor9849

    trevor9849 Experienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Whats the difference?

    Don't shit on me for not knowing :p
     
    trevor9849, Feb 15, 2011
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  2. ungovernable

    ungovernable Autonome Staff Member Uploader Admin Team Experienced member


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    Same thing...

    anarchism is the name of the philosophy

    autonomy is part of anarchism anf it's how the economy and the society will be managed:
    a society without government is autonomous
    shop without boss is autonomy

    etc...
     
    ungovernable, Feb 15, 2011
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  3. trevor9849

    trevor9849 Experienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Oh, I was confused because I read this interview thing with Stza from Choking Victim and he said he was an Autonomist and not an Anarchist.
     
    trevor9849, Feb 15, 2011
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  4. JackNegativity

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    From what I hear Stza is kinda retarded.
     
    JackNegativity, Feb 15, 2011
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  5. ungovernable

    ungovernable Autonome Staff Member Uploader Admin Team Experienced member


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    yup....

    "autonomist" term can be vague... there is a lot of different movement.... german autonomists, french autonomists, russian autonomists, etc.... It can even stand for national-autonomist, the anarcho-autonomous movement in germany and france (aka the ultra-left).... But in the anarcho-punk scene, autonomist is definatly synonymous of anarchism...

    Anyway, most of autonomists are anarchists
     
    ungovernable, Feb 15, 2011
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  6. DirtyRottenThrashPunk

    DirtyRottenThrashPunk Experienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Why else would he call a release "shoot the kids at school"? :ecouteurs:
     
    DirtyRottenThrashPunk, Feb 15, 2011
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  7. vAsSiLy77

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    some autonomy definitions:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomy

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomism
    The Greek Anarcho-autonomoi, french, italian and german autonome movements, Disobbedienti (ex Tute Bianche), London Autonomists, The Blitz (movement) (Norway), Ungdomshuset, Danish autonomist squat, Swedish Anarcho-syndicalist Youth Federation, Homeless Workers' Movement MTST ect. \m/
     
    vAsSiLy77, Feb 16, 2011
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  8. trevor9849

    trevor9849 Experienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Oh, thanks for the info.
     
    trevor9849, Feb 16, 2011
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  9. JackNegativity

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    I said this not even in response to this thread, so much as other shit I've heard about Stza saying. I just wouldn't put too much stock into anything that guy says. He tries to sound intellectual, but in the end he's a drugged out sell-out idiot.

    In anarchism, autonomy is a given. I don't see the need to differentiate.
     
    JackNegativity, Feb 16, 2011
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