anarchist views on paedophillia

um excuse me, u insult calling it an illness then contradict that by saying it's not a choice to be a pedophile?

 

In this case yes. and in a lot of cases also. not every case, but certainly here. this is so digusting, how the fuck can you possibly justify it?

 

Yes. When looking at my statement I now see my horrendus contradiction. Oopsy.

 

i want to know what is so "normal" about a grown man wanting to dominate and sexually violate a child. Seriously.

And also, how come no one has made any jokes about priests and pedophillia yet???

 

However excluding the contradictions I still stand by everything I said.

 

I am by no means justifying the act.
But considering the actually paraphilia isn't able to be controlled, or chosen, or anything, I just don't see how you could hate somebody for it.
It's a natural occurence, however repulsive we may find it. Like homosexuality, or a fetish for being smacked around.
The act is worng, though. And I have said that. Being a victim of shildhood sexual abuse, I now the effects, and complete wrongness of any situation involving sexual relations between an adult and a child.
Even between a teen and a child.
That could never be justified, as it is a choice, and it is wrong. In my mind.

 

The comparisons to schizophrenia are totally off-base. One may not choose to have pedophiliac desires any more than one might choose to be schizophrenic, but it ends there. In schizophrenia, neural pathways shut down, distorting sensory perception coming into the brain, and the person's internal thought process, it is an organic brain disease that disables the mechanisms of cognitive functioning. I might get the impulse to beat the shit out of my boss or the guy who cuts me off in traffic, but I am completely responsible if I succumb to that impulse.

That said, I should point out that there is a huge difference between pedophilia and EPHEBophilia, which is a sexual attraction towards post-pubescent youth. (Teens, roughly 13-17) Unfortunately, American law doesn't properly differentiate between the two. This should definitely be changed.

 

I did not compare Paedophillia to schizophrenia save in the respect that they are both things you don't choose to have. Schizophrenia as you said, is vastly a biologic illness. While Paedophillia likely comes about due to environmental/Developmental factors. Making it more like a personality disorder or some Rott like that.

 

Well this debate isnt going to change my mind. I know too many people who have had encounters with people who are paedophiles and its fucked them up beyond belief, and it just sickens me to see you defend it. Why dont you defend people who are racist as well... hey as long as they dont kill or hurt anyone, its fine right?

If your attracted to ALOT younger people, but doesnt do anything to enact on it and just keep it to yourself, then i got no beef with that. But i still think your a piece of shit.

You can give me your some foreign scientist and psychologist example, but it isnt convincing to me. Sorry.

 

here here. I agree completely


Hell, let's make excuses for men who rape women too while were at it, since i don't see a big difference between raping a woman or raping a child.

 

I think most of us can agree that it's a tabu - and my personal opinion is, that people should be open for them to get help. Many don't talk about it and get help, simply because they are to afraid to be discovered and hated all over society.

BUT - Any act of pedophilia as well as supporting anything related to exploiting children IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.

And i don't think we are going to accept pedophilia without questions - But that we should support those who seek to lead a life without harming any children,

 

Fuck, it's taken me a couple days to digest even that this was brought up here, and to see pedophiles get defended... It's difficult to grasp that.
So i've been thinking, ok, pedophilia isn't a choice, i get it. But it's still not ok in any way. There has to be some kind of cognitive therapy or something that can at least help a little.
Was thinking about what's been said here earlier about "acting on it". There has to be very different levels of that, 'cos i really don't think that it's just raping children that is to act on it. I'd concider looking at children in a creepy way to be a form of acting on it, and even having sexual thoughts about children. None of it is ok. Thoughts might not be directly hurtful to the child, but i still think it is a form of sexual abuse.

 

My best friend killed herself because she bore a child from her stepdad who raped her repeatedly. I will post once in this thread then ignore it completely.
In Holland the judicial system defines paedophilia as any sexual relationship between an adult (23+) and a minor (16-) I know a gay couple that officially have a (barely) paedophiliac relationship, but it is not due to any attraction to older men or 'children'.

Paedophilia is insane, sick and should be banned utterly and completely. Anyone justifying it should be banished alongside them. Period.
I take no gray stance and I am very clear on my opinion in this.
Paedophilia = sexual attraction to people that are too young to condone to anything other than what's for breakfast, basically. And even that is usually shoved down their throats. Necrophiliacs are equally sick, but at least the 'victim' is already dead.
Someone commits an act of paedophilia? Make them eunuchs the most painful way possible. Then cut off their sacks and feed it to them, then shove their dicks so far up their asshole until they puke it out again. Grab the spine through the anus and remove it that way with force and no anaesthesia. then shove every single piece down their throat in random order and see if they fall back in the right place.
I'm done, now anyone telling me I'm too aggressive can fuck off.

 

I agree with Rathryn, completely. That's not too agressive, at all.

 

Yeah, sounds ok. They die after, right?

 

Hopefully they do, otherwise they have to be zombies

 

Odd post...

Okay having sex or even thoughts about someone under the age of say 13 is totally wrong, I think we can all agree with that.. but the 14-17 range is where it gets fuzzy.

I believe it should be based on the individuals level of maturity. I would never have sex or even consider it with anyone under an "age of intelligence" (which is to say that they are able to understand and take responsibility for their actions). That age varies among individuals some people mature really young at like 14 or 15 others are still too immature at 25. Too me age isn't as important as what is in the persons head, and their ability to think and reason.

And yes pedophiliacs have a disease and should get treated for their disease, just like anyone else with a mental disorder. You can't compare racists to pedos either, considering racism is a choice, having a philia is not.

Okay wanted to mention one other thing. Love who your heart tells you to, love who you please... within reason, if someone is "under the age of intelligence", or if it is done against another's will then it is wrong, and you should look into those desires and find out why you have them so that you may fix them. Part of why these people don't get help is because of the intollerant views against them, you make someone a monster when you tell them they are a monster. (not saying that I disagree with the people who want to kill peadophiliacs, because I was raped as a child, but by not seeking to help them you are making them suppress thier desires until they do commit a violent act, where as if you treated them with compassion and helped them get help, then they may never have acted on their desire in the first place.... what I am say is if you know someone who has these desires help them to get help, you just might save the life of a child in the future.

 

And to make this thread even more bizarre you mentioned necrophilia... fuck man why not mention beastiality while you are are at it, let just throw out all of the sexual taboos...

Necrophilia, pedophilia, beastiality, are all wrong in one similar way. The "person" who you are desiring to have sex with can not consent (unless someone leaves it in their will that they wish to be fucked after death... has that ever happened I wonder). If a person has any of these tendencies they should seek help immediately. ANY FORCED RELATIONSHIP IS WRONG.

 

what about dendrophilia?