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65 HOUR EUROPEAN WORK WEEK

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by punkmar77, Sep 3, 2010.

  1. punkmar77

    punkmar77Experienced Member Staff Member Uploader Admin Team Experienced member


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    No to 65 hours http://www.cnt.es/65horas
    Sun, 01/03/2009 - 20:29 - CNT-AIT

    * 65 Hours
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    After more than two centuries of struggle, after so much bloodshed in the conquest of a half decent working conditions, the debate has opened at the European level on possible larger preview of the workday to 65 hours, as agreed between employer and employee.

    No to 65 hours

    The need to ensure business competitiveness stands out as the states' argument in favor of this option to be implemented, in principle, depending on state governments. But in not too long, when inequalities between states and workers becomes more acute, the cause is the working day, what will governments do such as Spain, who initially refused to support this initiative? Only when a change of opinion with a growing economic crisis or political change in the Executive can it become a reality, this approach is unacceptable. Moreover, the possibility of extending the working day, without the least reason for it, gives employers an excuse to cut the rights and wage conditions: in the context of a crisis, which inevitably follows an increase in unemployment-the employers will have available a loaded gun to get more for less money (if you do not accept 13, 15 or 18 hours of work, support your family as you can), which must be added as the delay in the age of retirement itself, arose in Spain.

    This initiative, moreover, not only undermines the historic conquest of the rights of workers. Also against the essence of being human, because it wipes out the possibility of spending time training, of leisure, of personal and family life ... Will it be another way of creating consumerist and ignorant voters? It reduces us, once again, to product, to machines for the benefit of others.

    But we at CNT are never going to consent. And we will continue fighting for a 30-hour workweek.


    No a las 65 horas
    Sun, 01/03/2009 - 20:29 — CNT-AIT

    * 65 Horas
    * Anarcosindicalismo
    * C.N.T.
    * Campaña

    * ""

    Tras más de dos siglos de lucha, tras tanta sangre derramada en la conquista de unas condiciones de trabajo medio dignas, se ha abierto el debate a nivel europeo sobre la posibile amplicación de la jornada laboral a 65 horas, acordadas entre patrón y trabajador.

    No a las 65 horas

    La necesidad de asegurar la competitividad empresarial destaca como argumento de los estados favorables a esta opción cuya ejecución, en principio, dependería de los gobiernos estatales. Pero dentro de no mucho tiempo, cuando las desigualdades entre los estados se agudicen y se esgrima que la causa es la jornada laboral, ¿qué harán gobiernos como el español, que en principio se ha negado a apoyar esta iniciativa? Sólo un cambio de opinión ante una crisis económica creciente o la alternancia política en el Ejecutivo convertirán en realidad este inadmisible planteamiento. Además, la posibilidad de ampliar la jornada laboral, sin que exista el menor motivo para ello, dará excusa a la patronal para rebajar los derechos y condiciones salariales: en el marco de una crisis –que deriva inevitablemente en un incremento del desempleo–, los empresarios tendrán a su disposición un arma cargada para conseguir más por menos precio (si no aceptas 13, 15 ó 18 horas diarias de trabajo, mantén a tu familia con lo que puedas), a la que hay que sumar el retraso en la edad de jubilación que sí se plantea en España.

    Esta iniciativa, además, no sólo atenta contra la conquista histórica de los derechos de los trabajadores. También contra la esencia del ser humano, porque borra de un plumazo la posibilidad de dedicar tiempo a la formación, al ocio, a la vida personal y familiar... ¿Será otra vía para crear votantes consumistas e ignorantes? Se nos reduce, una vez más, a máquinas de producir para otros.

    Pero desde CNT no lo vamos a consentir. Y seguiremos luchando por una jornada laboral de 30 horas.
     

  2. nodz

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    65 hour work week, that's 13 hours a day or 9.5hrs a day if you work weekends. Get Fucked!! I hate working 38 hours a week as a wage slave!! Pay me double what I earn and I then wouldn't consider it, I have a life outside of work.
     
  3. morgan_gibson87@hotmail.com

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    What a horrible existence and what terrible regress if such proposals were to become a reality... So much for the GFC throwing neoliberalism into the dustbin of history...
     
  4. QueerPunk

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    That's fucked...the whole raising the working age in France sucks as well...I guess it was in response to the fact that Europe has an ageing population which means the workforce could suffer badly which would mean less tax payers to pay for those state-funded services that European countries seem to pride themselves on.
     
  5. Milan

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    65 hours!?! That's a step of like 200years back in time,
    what happened to all the achievements for the working class?

    just a few more years and the worker will have no rights anymore at all...
     
  6. nodz

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    @Queerpunk - aging workforce is already taken place in Australia. They have taken away the 65 year retirement age for men and 60 for women. They raised the age to 67 and 62 I think. There are government incentives if you employ someone older than the 67 age limit, I think the government subsidises a certain percentage of their wages. Trouble is in Australia, the government is making it less and less affordable for someone to retire and they are having to work on longer.
     
  7. SecretSquirrel

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    I do hope that's a mistranslation from the original Spanish :lmao:
     
  8. punkmar77

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    yes it was, thanx for the heads-up
     
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