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What do you guys think about Stza Crack's racism?

Discussion in 'Music, punk scene & subcultures' started by KillCops4Satan, Feb 24, 2015.

  1. KillCops4Satan

    KillCops4Satan Member New Member


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    Don't get me wrong, I love his music and politics, his work has definitely been a big influence on how I see things, but do you guys think his references to whites as crackers and naming a song "don't shoot till you see the whites of their skins" is kind of fucked up? I mean not all whites are capitalists and Nazis. Just something that had been on my mind.
     

  2. B4K3D4L1F3

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    have you ever seen Stza? people dont really get whiter than that guy. If it's self imposed its acceptable....riiiiiiiight?
     
  3. KillCops4Satan

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    He is Jewish
     
  4. Noble one

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    That guy is pretty good and all, but he tends to go overboard and can say some frivolous shit sometimes, whitch is his style, over the top aggression and humor. Don't take it all too seriously
     
  5. KillCops4Satan

    KillCops4Satan Member New Member


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    Yeah you're probably right man
     
  6. punkmar77

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    Class A1 douchebag mysoginist, fuck that guy.
     
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  7. Noble one

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    Anyone I don't take too seriously I pretty much consider bubble gum. Sorry Dick Lucas, but Stza wasn't worthy of what you did for him in the past,
     
  8. anticivpunk

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    Well, I can understand where Stza Crack is coming from. You see, high murder rate cities can affect surrounding cities. Stza Crack is from New York City which is by Camden, New Jersey which is the #2 highest murder rate city in the United States. I lived the first five years of my life in Gary, Indiana, which was #1 highest murder rate city in the United States until we moved out and others did, too. It then dropped to #3. It affects the surrounding cities including Chicago with violence. Cities with greater social tension experience more extreme violence. That violence is evidence of the current atmosphere of social tension which is a consequence of past social tension and anticipation of future social tension.

    Gary, Indiana, that city which has the #3 spot of the highest murder rate in the United States, has a demographic of 23 neighborhoods and only one is prominently white. The one that is prominently white has a 99.5% divorce rate. They never release murder rate figures for neighborhoods, for probably a good reason. You release a figure like that and you're going to see more gangs fighting over their blocks, but they still have to hold the city infrastructure together, because city government isn't local or state government, it's an intermediary force.

    Michael Jackson if you recall, was from Gary, Indiana. His well known hit songs weren't socialist, but if you research his later works they had very, very strong socialist messages.

    Back to my neighborhood, which is Black Oak, the neighborhood I grew up in Gary, Indiana. It is mostly Irish, Scottish, German, Polish and Dutch with a 1.5% demograph of Greeks. You might be aware of the anarchist uprising in Exarchia, a very poor Greek neighborhood in Athens, known for hostile anarchist activity with high levels of extreme violence between the police and them. So you have me, an anarcho-punk from Gary who moved away at five to a place an hour away from Gary and now two hours from Chicago, where I've spent most of my life dealing with redneck white people who think their Confederate flags and threats of using nooses are dangerous. They never saw the Latin Kings leave 6-8 dead bodies 2 blocks from their Aunt's regularly when visiting from their Crackerville.

    So yeah, I would say I fear the Latin Kings over some redneck neo-nazis or neo-confederates. I also trust them more. I went to a preschool in Black Oak that was half black and half white for the student body. Central and South America experiences highly volatile levels of extreme violence. Black people of color experience high levels of violence overseas in Africa. Asian people experience their own violence overseas in Asia. That's why I'm anti-racist and recognize that we live in a straight, white, cisgendered, male dominated society. If I didn't want to shoot rich, white people, then I could've been shot myself, or my family could've. How the fuck do you expect to tell poor, white people to obey a dominant straight, rich, white, cisgendered, male, old-aged society when they could be killed on the street for it?

    So yeah, kill whitey when the cops are around 'cause when the motherfuckers leave they can't keep us alive, anyway.
     
  9. Charger Bullet

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    I had no clue who that guy is so I did a search. Ah, okay, a member of that shitty band. I remember years ago a friend tried to inform me on that clown band. It pissed him off a little that I started laughing at that crap.

    What is with the common theme of "crack" with this goofball? My friend was telling me that Leftover Crack were real crackheads (as a positive) or something and I started laughing more. I told him "well that's probably why they suck".
     
  10. BeeMilk

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    I know this is an old thread, but I grew up on Stza's music. Loved Star Fucking Hipsters, Choking Victim, and Leftover Crack. Got to see them live a couple of years ago. To my knowledge though, Stza is a total misogynist and a douchebag. I heard some rumors about how he treated Nico back in the Star Fucking Hipster days. But after Whitney and some of her friends came out about how violently he treated her (and women in general) I can't say I respect the guy. Actually wrote Stza Sucks In silver paint pen over my Leftover Crack patch. I'm not gonna take the patch off because I love the music, but I don't stand by him. Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up the Johnny Rotten type (ya'know, anarchy in the UK.... except for on my lawn).
     
  11. ungovernable

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    Got a link to this story? I'm interested to learn more, haven't heard of it yet
     
  12. BeeMilk

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    this might take me a while. Whitney posted some things on facebook and Instagram. I remember her being more vague about who she was talking about but it was obvious with context. Joseph Steel from CopOut (who is friends with whitney) also posted on facebook and was more direct. I've gotta dig for them.
     
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  14. ungovernable

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    Wow, thanks for the information. Doesn't look good...
     
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