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punks not dead - the movie

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by anark0i!, Nov 13, 2009.

  1. ASA

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    \m/ metal years is shit but funny, watcha doco on thrash instead or spinal tap for that matta fahfahfah
     
  2. Spider

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    LOL at people judging shit based on some of the bands being successful. If a band can play to more than three people they are mainstream and not worthy of any attention, and in fact any project they are a part of should be boycotted to keep the scene elite and keep all of those "normal" people out of it. It's actually a really interesting documentary, covering all aspects of punk, and the popularity of some of th bands mentioned in this thread is discussed in the doco, it also goes into stuff like corporate sponsorship and how the warped tour isn't really punk etc.
     
  3. Wonder138

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    never seen part 2
     
  4. ASA

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    some bands are just shitter than others but yea i'd give it a crack but know ya shiz beforehand haha, now thats a bad doco innit
     
  5. Anxiety69

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    cxommenting on what Spider said... most scenes like rap and such, when an artist gets a big label deal and sells millions of albums, he's a "star" insetad of a "sellout." It's interesting how quick people are to turn on someone when they obtain success, or like Tiger Woods, how quick they are to trash and make them look bad.
     
  6. ASA

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    i think there needs to be a more discerning eye put ovetrthings is all yall or don't even bother
     
  7. vectoman

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    yes sir, people get to worked up whether or not something is punk or not, who gives a shit whether or not Green day is punk, if you like, listen to it, I wont judge you if you like. Now, if you're listening to it just because they were on the cover of Rolling stone or something, that's different, thats when you're just being a tool.

    same goes with all music.
     
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    this is purely a devil's advocate opinion, but what if seeing a band on a magazine cover, or some other media, (for our purposes lets say a zine) is what makes you check them out, and leads to actually like them? I don't see how that makes one a tool at all.
     
  9. vectoman

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    its one thing to listen to it because you saw it on a Rolling stone, Spin, some punk zine and think your being punk or hip because you are listening to that music.
    If you found music because you saw it on a magazine, looked it up and liked it, I think thats great.
     
  10. Wonder138

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    i just dont liek mainstream punk music its lame and i dont think its ery good music plus i dont like seeing ppl thinking music liek that is punk
     
  11. ASA

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    because major companies support nuclear proliferation and kill art, this is anarcho punk, i won't judge but ya beter think or i will
     
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    are u saying that because u don't like it no one else should? who cares if they think something's punk that isn't? how does it hurt you?
     
  13. ASA

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    thanks for ignoring my last post, raises hand to the dog and bum rag, bloody religion
     
  14. Wonder138

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    good point it dosent rely hurt me its just anoys me but at the same time im glad that punk is so underground now
     
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    i know what you mean, it sucks when something u like gets taken over by people u don't like, but u have to hope that maybe at least a small percentage, based on getting into it for whatever reason, will become better for it. Maybe even go from being a corporate punk to a true punk. Encouraging those u see in that situation couldn't hurt. If they like green day, get them into crass or something with similar sound but much more meaning.If they still like green day afterwards, then @$#%$%@
     
  16. vectoman

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    why is it bad if a bunch of people like a band?
     
  17. ASA

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    read back through this thread vectorman, it doesn't matter until...hipsters are the first to jump on backs for not liking he right band but punks have more brains thats whay hipsters wanna copy but they never can

    sarcastic tones at punk shows by sum individuals r normal though, isn't life a joke
     
  18. t-bag

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    I own this. It's alright....Spreads from the 70's to the 80's hardcore scene right thru to todays mainstream "Punk". The 2nd half is nice,focusing on the crusty ghetto punk scene and the DIY movement.
     
  19. Jazz

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    Do most people just shorten their sentences to that internet chat speak? Because 4 ppl tht talk lik this, ur argument jst doesnt seem tht valid. I mean, grammar errors and what not, sure, but in general it's just hard to want to be open to your opinion when you don't even sound that smart to begin with.

    Moving on, Punk's Not Dead isn't that bad. And it's not called, "Punk's Not Dead - The Movie". Pretty sure. Anyway, it's not that bad. I wouldn't call it an anarchist doc. or anything, but that doesn't make it a bad film.

    I have a question though, because it seems like some people are implying this; do you have to be an anarchist to be punk? Or, to be punk, do you have to be an anarchist?
     
  20. ASA

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    using txt speak does make the meaning invalid, thanks.

    to your question, no but they are closely aligned generally as it is the basis of punk, even those who moan and shout about it agree on some points, like beuracracys crap, on a bigger scale

    puritanical anarchists i don't find particularly anarchist in their practice as anarchy is free for everybody if they want it but it has basic principles that humans use everyday without the need for govt, which is the point and is not disorganised as it believes in society of which most humans dwell in social gatherings but gives you the free choice which are ideas that have been coopted as govt at its core ideology doesn't beleive in your free choice, i believe punk had a direct effect on generations who grew up to take their power back but anarchism is not just personal but plans cause else if you don't go the whole hog, your being 'irresponsble' and in any society thats not ok and you end up with bush part 2 secenario as people thinks is free choice to vote in this system, 3 times the charm, the first time was enough!

    there are major points too: consumerism is not punk or anarchist, it is a tie that binds and some facts are worse than others, always make choices and not dumb ones, inform others don't enroach but know where ya stand, know ya shiz, get some back to basics reading yo
     
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