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Crisis ex-members in a nazi band. wtf !?

Discussion in 'Music, punk scene & subcultures' started by ungovernable, May 22, 2013.

  1. ungovernable

    ungovernable Autonome Staff Member Uploader Admin Team Experienced member


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    Crisis was an UK anarcho-punk band who played Rock Against Racism and Anti-Nazi League gigs. They released MANY anti-nazi songs.

    I just learnt that two ex-members of this band (Douglas Pearce et Tony Wakeford) joined a dodgy folk/experimental band called Death in June.

    This band has collaborated with a nazi artist called Boyd Rice who is member of the White Aryan Resistance and American Front.
    They use many reference to the nazi regime including a variation of the nazi Totenkopf as logo.
    Their name is a reference to the Night of the Long Knives, an important episode of nazi's history.
    Douglas Pearce admitted that he admires Ernst Röhm, the founder of Sturm Abteilung, a group of elite troops of the nazi army. He even quote Hitler as the most influential man of this century.
    Recently, he admitted to be a national-bolchevist also known as nazi-bolchevics

    interessing article on libcom:
    http://libcom.org/library/death-in-june-a-nazi-band

    In this youtube video his friend Boyd Rice is interviewed by the founder of the Nazi organization WAR (White Aryan Resistance) and tells him about the right-wing beliefs of music groups Death In June
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--ozbuxSW8A

    What the fuck happenned with Crisis ex-members ?!
     

  2. Rebellious twit

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    nationalistic commie nazis what the fuck?----, this is scary that anti-nazis becomes nazis....it's both sad and scary... :ecouteurs:
     
  3. Kobac

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    It looks like they have longer history with fascism than anarchism and it is interesting for how long they have kept it as a "secret".

    Franjo Tuđman(founding "father" of fascism in Croatia), Vinko Martinović(commander of HOS) and Alija izetbegović(pres, of Bosnia at that time) were using HOS for their own sick purposes.
    During the war HOS(Hrvatske obrambene snage-Croatian defense force)was small band(Militia) of multiethnical neofascists soliders(Bosnian and croatian soliders)that commited religious and ethnic cleansing against Bošnjaci(south slavic people that lives in Bosnia And Herz.)and territorial conquest of Bosnia in synchronization with the Serbian fascists from Belgrade.

    Now in Croatia they teach children that war was about our "independance" and freedom for Croatian people after 9 centuries of servitude.They fight for independace took more deaths than expected in a war that was nothing more then "defence" against the oppression of Ex-Yugoslavia(Serbia).

    It is sick how members of DIJ used the chance during the war to make a fascistic propaganda.
     
  4. Bananaman

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    Old news, that has been discussed to death. Never found Crisis interesting to begin with...
     
  5. ungovernable

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    Yeah of course old news, i think Death in June has been together for over 20 years... But i just learnt about it. I'm a little bit late lol
     
  6. punkmar77

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    Ha I was about to say what Bananaman said...he beat me to it...
     
  7. nclpw

    nclpw Experienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    I never knew about this either. Oh man oh man.
     
  8. nz61287n

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    Yeah, it seems to come up every couple of months (still odd though).



    This probably does not add too much to the conversation but:

    The SA were not an elite military force, they were a militia-type group made up of Nazi party members (who were ideologically devoted to Nazism and street violence). The German military command thought they would be useful as an auxilarlly force (to get around the Verseille Treaty) but after Hitler became chancellor the military was worried about a power struggle/civil war between them and the SA. The Night of the Long Knives was a move by Hitler to gain the loyalty of the military by cutting the SA to size (internal party rivalries also played a big role).

    In the article where Pearce talks about the Leftist elements in the SA and Rohm wanting to overthrow Hitler and the SS is for the most part pure fantasy (Rohm's last words were an enthusiastic Heil Hitler") and interestingly enough was the position that the Nazi party adopted after the purge (Hitler also retroactively passed legislation which ensured that the purge was "legal"). I'm currently going through a bunch of Weimar era primary source documents (as a part of research that I'm doing for a podcast) and so far none of it backs up Pearce's interpretation.
     
  9. Kutthroat Lucky

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    proof that people get into punk and anarchism when it's trendy, and not because they are true anarchist or even punks for that matter.
     
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