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Dealing with human nature

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Kobac, Feb 6, 2013.

  1. Kobac

    Kobac Experienced Member Uploader Experienced member Forum Member


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    I've read some books about anarchy and about her philosophy.When this civilization reaches its final stage of evolution-Anarchy;what would society(that is based on free will of others,freedom of experimenting and promoting the idea of ​​no limitations except those which, springing from freedom for all)do, or how would they act regarding people(there will always be people who will kill,it's human nature) that would continue to kill,rape,steal(because there's no law now)and take advantage of situation as it is.In society that is governed by love and peace there is no room for prisons,death penalties or any means of deprivation of human liberty.My question is..what would be your action,what would you do with people that don't fit in.
     

  2. Bakica

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    viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8117&hilit=prisons

    viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3491&hilit=prisons

    viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2458&hilit=prisons

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_law

    I'm not here to be rude, but this community has already tackled this issue. Above are some of the threads where you can find some interesting answers. Generally, prisons would be abolished. Mental institutions would probably stay but in different form, such as voluontary 'institutions' (can't find better word now) where people would treat mentally challenged people with respect and love. There would surely be less criminals than nowadays since money and private property would be abolished. Self defense is a way to go, if you ask me. Read wiki link I posted above.
     
  3. IamMe

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    Kobac this is a good question n i aint really got an answer at the moment, but you have made me think, like you siad it is human nature to kill and we have evolved the way we have because of hunting and killing. hopfully if every one is treated with love n respect and as equal people no one would have the urge to kill another for satisfaction, only for self defense as bakica siad. but to defend your self one would have to pushed to a limit in the first place which would mean some one was trying to hurt you .

    i dont think any living thing should live in such big society's like us, we know it dosent work and isnt fare. i think the only way we could live together peacfully with other humans and the planet is to live in small comunities where each person is treated equal and has there own indivitual job/role in that community.
     
  4. Kobac

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    I understand you Bakica very well,but this topic is not about prisons or mental institutions, it's about human course of action regarding people that will kill no mather what(remember no prisons or any kind of institutions if it's anarchy)
    Like Krompotkin said Mutual Aid and i understand.Again my question is how would you "treat" that person.Would you beat him senseless so he would not think of crime again like they do it today,talk to him 'bout what he's done,or tap him on the head, give him candy and say..off you go in a bright world.
     
  5. Spike one of many

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    Tie him up and present him as a parcel to the victim's family? Let them decide what to do with him?
     
  6. xXZenyattaXx

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    Law doesn't prevent anything. People who follow it have the moral sense not to have to obey it in order to not kill people. People who don't... well they do their thing and often don't get caught. Furthermore, we live in a society that either creates monsters from desperation or through rewarding their behavior... but otherwise I'd never support a Federated Federal System of Anarchy that tells everyone how to deal with specific situations. You have problems? Come together with those you live with or handle it on your own, in your own way....
     
  7. Bakica

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    The only option i see at the moment is either to expel him from community you live in or solve the issue by direct democracy meaning members of the community will be able to vote and decide what should be done ( killing that person should never be an option, but it's all on community to decide ).

    Something like this ^
     
  8. VeganShteve

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    "Human nature" is a constructed idea, for the most part. Look at people in disaster situations, for example - they mostly have an overwhelming tendency to help each other out. The state, in all its forms, relies on dividing people by pitting them against each other, then claiming that the resultant antisocial effects are the sole justification for the continuance of government. Without artificially placed divisions such as power, class, gender, race, etc. we'd have a very different and much friendlier world. But yeah, there still is the problem of the tiny minority that could be violent. As radicals, our methods start with getting to the root of the problem. Why are people violent? Childhood abuse and harsh living conditions are major factors, so these need to be looked at first of all. So patriarchal/dominating attitudes and the causes of poverty are both to be dealt with, and that's (hopefully) what anarchists are already doing. Beyond that, evolution will have to take its course. And there's no use in talking about "stages" of evolution as if it's some pre-planned process. It's not. By definition, it only works as and when change and adaptation is necessary.
     
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