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Hi from Poland!

Discussion in 'New members introductions' started by Razudz, Dec 7, 2012.

  1. nclpw

    nclpw Experienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    I don`t know how the parties in Poland are, I`m guessing your right wing is pretty mid-right? There isn`t much of a difference between the parties in some countries, like here, they`re all neoliberals, left and right. When you say you`re a right wing in an anarchist forum that normally means you`re pretty extreme and out to troll, so I`m sorry for being an asshole.

    I hear a lot of people complaining about this. Anyone can call themselves an antifa. You shouldn`t judge them all just because the idiots tend to be the loudest. I`ve heard about pro-usa and -israel antifas in Germany, they consider anyone that is against israel a nazi. That doesn`t mean the whole antifa is like that.
    On another note, I see nothing wrong with having zero tolerance for nazis and racists. As punkmar mentioned in another thread, they/we`re not out to recruit anyone, and I`d sure as hell never try to convert a nazi or "tolerate" a nazis opinions in my presence.
    The reason you might have gotten jumped by antifas is that the right wing has strong ties to racists, nazis and the likes. The right wing is widely known for being racist so naturally most people go in attack mode around right wings.
     
  2. Spike one of many

    Spike one of many Experienced Member Uploader Experienced member Forum Member


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    Well this song by crass came to mind :ecouteurs: , "white punks on hope" here are some of the lyrics:

    Pogo on a nazi, spit upon a jew,
    Vicious mindless violence that offers nothing new.
    Left wing violence, right wing violence, all seems much the same,
    Bully boys out fighting, it's just the same old game.
    Boring fucking politics that'll get us all shot,
    Left wing, right wing, you can stuff the lot.
    Keep your petty prejudice, I don't see the point,
    ANARCHY AND FREEDOM IS WHAT I WANT.

    And yeah, there are antifas that are somewhat of a paradox, having the same fascist attitude from a different angle. And that's quite shocking that some are so "anti-fascist" that they are actually pro-israel!
    But like nclpw has said, not all are like that.
     
  3. Razudz

    Razudz Member New Member


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    Well, we do not have right-wing in fact. Even parties, who call themselves like "right-winged" are nothing but middle/left, coz their programme is nothing but a socialist one. Of course, parties in our government. Rest (including that fucking ONR) are kinda better, but not much more. There's no one I could vote for, at least.

    I tolerate anyone, who can express his opinions without attacking or, as you said, trying to convert his oponent. Even a nazi or a racist, yea. And don't be sorry - I've met many people who acted like ya at the beggining, so I grew used to it, and I know that you're not to blame. Stereotypes are, in fact ;) I've fallen victim to them many times, too, as I did now with Antifa.
     
  4. nclpw

    nclpw Experienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Yeah the rise of neoliberalism. Capitalism coated in "socialism".
    Well, I don`t consider racism or nazism a valid political opinion, but thats just me.

    And yeah, welcome to the forum!
     
  5. Ammon

    Ammon Experienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Razuds, my last comment was quite hostel, i was really in a pissy mude when i rote it, we dont argee on most thing, but i hate WP fucks too.
     
  6. Razudz

    Razudz Member New Member


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    Ah, no worries. This is why I always liked punks and true skins - they are open minded, and have friendlier attitude. On a "true" polish right-wing forum, I was banned and threatend as soon as I said I was on Przystanek Woodstock (great thing, really).

    TBH, I've never met a communist who could say anything more than "Poland was better at PRL" (Polska Rzeczpospolita Ludowa, when communists ruled our country under USSR's banner) and all that shit, they couldn't explain what exactly communism is.

    And oh, I've found a post about our culture. We may have been conquered many times, too many, but we haven't lost a single thing. Well, maybe just our tolerance for others (even in dark ages, there were no documented "witch burning" things here!)

    Thanks for the welcome, anyways! :)