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Hi from Poland!

Discussion in 'New members introductions' started by Razudz, Dec 7, 2012.

  1. Razudz

    Razudz Member New Member


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    Hello y'all!

    My name's Karol and I come from, as I stated in topic, Poland. I'm 17 years old, and... I don't like to talk bout myself :p I got here by my search of Loikaemie albums, since recently I've got more interested in Oi! than anything. My political views are almost strictly right-winged. I despise nazis, commies and all those WP fucks, alongside with recent Antifa - they are just becoming the left-winged fascists :/ (And yeah, I've got a mohawk on my head right now)
    Well, that's all. Nothing more, nothing less to say.
     

  2. Spike one of many

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    You're joking??
     
  3. Razudz

    Razudz Member New Member


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    Sorry, but no. I was always close to punks, mostly to street ones, and this is the music I love.
    But does "right-winged" means anything more than that I love order and my homeland? Nope.
     
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    Loving order and your homeland doesn`t go hand-in-hand with right wing politics. If anything, the right wings will do the most damage to "order" and your homeland.
     
  5. Spike one of many

    Spike one of many Experienced Member Uploader Experienced member Forum Member


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    What is it you love about your homeland? Is it more the people?, the countryside?, the government?, the history? o_O ?
    I don't know too much about poland.
     
  6. nclpw

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    I think its the idea that your nationality has traits that outrank any other, and that no one except the natives deserve to live there.
    If you truly love your people you should stop supporting the ones that oppress them.
    Thinking that the right wings will actually help or protect the people in any way is pretty hilarious.

    It seems like the main reason patriots support the right wing is because they want to stop immigration, thats the only thing that makes sense anyway. Why would anyone thats not stinking rich benefit from any other law the right wings have implemented?
     
  7. Lucien

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    A right-winged with a mohawk who considers him- or herself punk. Just when I thought I'd seen it all...
    Care to explain why you're right-winged ?
     
  8. Razudz

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    I love our history, our beautyful land, our culture (especially food!). Our government is one of the most corrupted ones in Europe - I wish we had one like in Netherlands!
    Joseph Pilsudski, one of our greatest leaders in history, said one thing bout polish people - "Naród wspaniały tylko ludzie kurwy", which means something like that "Magnificent nation, but the folks are bitches".
    I won't agrre, my kind sire. Just because I love my nationality, doesn't mean I think it's better than any other. I respect other's beliefs and their nations.
    Well, I don't have, really, anything against a black/red/yellow/whatever person that lives in Poland and is a good part of our society. I do not have anything against an Ukrainian, Russian, Greek, British etc. people that want to live here - just one thing. If you want to gain citizenship of Poland - you must consider yourself a Pole. I really dislike peers that go around sayin somethin like this "I'm a Pole with Ukrainian roots!". No. For me, a Pole is just a Pole, his roots do not really matter.

    I don't think I've understood that... Sorry, but my english is pretty weak.

    I never said I consider myself punk - I just love the look of mohawk on my head, martens on my feet and all that shiet. Does dressing as a punk must mean I'm a member of that subculture? Nope, I don't think so. Maybe I deceive the society - but I do not really care.

    This is why I came here, dude, I like discussing. So... why I am right winged? Well, that's a nice question - I've never wondered why I am right winged. Well, as I said - I love order, and for me, that's the way to go. In this modern world we have political liberty - but our personal and economic liberty are very limited. For me, we should have guaranteed our personal liberty, our economic liberty, but our political liberty should be somewhat limited - not every person know's what politics are.
    I could go on, and on on this, but, let's keep to the question. The other thing is that I love Poland, and from what I see, the best way to cultivate it are right-winged views.
     
  9. nclpw

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    Yeah, I know many polish are very arrogant. My uncle is married to a polish woman, and he`s albanian. his son considers himself polish and is embarrassed by his father. Its fucking ridiculous.
    Lucky for him my uncle looks kinda polish.
    Poland is a workers state, right? The right wings don`t give a shit about the working class. Don`t even think for a second that you`ll be able to get rich through "economic liberty". There is no equal opportunity in the capitalist system.
    You`re not gonna fool anyone with that here. All right wings say they are okay with the immigrants that work, but really I know they`d rather get rid of them all. And you can`t expect anyone to denounce their own nationality just because they live in "your" country.

    So, you join an anarchist forum, listen to street punk and perhaps even anarcho punk(? thats what you gonna find here), you have a mohawk and dress like a punk but you`re not a punk. Right.
    Look, i know you`re only 17, you`re probably not going to hold the same opinions you have now next year. I`m just wondering what a right wing that listens to punk and dresses like one, but isn`t one, wants on an anarcho forum?
     
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    so You hate commies? you might be on the roung website asshole, dont expect a warm on ANRCHO_punk.net
     
  11. Spike one of many

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    I think s/he's a troll, unless s/he's here to try 'n convince us that "right" is right. :lmao:
     
  12. Razudz

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    I came here for the music, and I thought that I'd say hi. I do not want to convince anybody about anything, I'm not a troll either (and I'm a man, by the way)

    From what I know, commies have nothing to do with anarchists, but damn, I may be wrong after all.

    Does standing in a garage makes you a car? I don't think so... I mean, come on - mohawks may be tied to punks, but does that make them available only for 'em? Again, I don't think so.

    You can ban me, do whateva ya want - I don't really care. I think our discussion should end here, coz it's isn't bringin up anythin valuable - I'll just continue to search for more great music.
     
  13. nclpw

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    well thats their biggest nightmare, isn`t it. Its finally become a fashion you can follow.
    I doubt you`d get kicked out, but I still don`t understand why you would like anarchist music. shouldn`t you be into rac and shit like that? :p
     
  14. Lucien

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    No, but it's pretty useless standing in one if you don't have a car isn't it ? ;)

    So you prefer economic liberty over political liberty. That's a right-winged thought allright, basically it makes you a republican ;)

    But let's be honest - how on Earth do you see that work out well in Poland ?

    And another thing - you say you don't mind foreigner being part of society, as long as their roots don't matter... Culture is part of our human life. We grow up with it and part of it becomes part of our personality.
    How do you expect people to "get rid" of it ?
    Or even expect them to "adopt" Polish culture ?
    (what is Polish culture by the way, you guys have been cheap labor for other countries for decades.... what makes óur culture a big part of yóur culture...)
     
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    Again attacking this young man for the things he thinks are right isn't going to help him learn anything, maybe he hates 'commies' because his or his families reality in Poland under communist rule is different from anything any of the rest of us have experienced, and by the way Ammon we aren't pure communists or communist sympathizers on this sight and we also aren't assholes that attack at the drop of a dime so chill the fuck out with that bullshit...libertarian-communists and anarcho-communists are not the same thing as Marxist-Leninists or Maoists and maybe he doesn't understand the difference between any of it being that he's 17....
     
  16. nclpw

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    Haha. I know that music thing was kinda lame/way over the line, I`m really curious though, it is a little baffling. Kinda difficult to ignore an introduction like that, they`re pretty rare on a forum like this.
     
  17. Lucien

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    Nothing to do with communism.
    I don't like it either. Been member of a communist party for a couple of years, and seen enough reasons to finally oppose it.
    The theory is nice, but in reality it just becomes another fascist regime.
     
  18. BroccoliIsForConservatives

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    How does one like order but listens to disorderly music? A great deal of punk is in the lyrics and attitude, which you oppose to.
    Antifa is not left-winged.
     
  19. Spike one of many

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    Aww, well if you're not a troll and you don't intend turning us all into right-wing conservative voters then I do apologize. :lmao: We're not a bunch of elitists, after all. So, uh...wecome to the forum, I guess.
     
  20. Razudz

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    I'm eager to learn, really, so if I'm wrong, point it out, please :). Why do I dislike communism? Well... It can't work out. From what I see, a human being MUST have something for himself, know that's HIS not everyone's - and at this level of social mentality, communism nor anarchism wouldn't work out. By the way, I like the idea of anarchy, but we can't have it - there'll be always stupid cunts who wouldn't know how to behave in a society like that. And this is another reason why I'm right-winged also - I like to think reallistic.

    Shouldn't I be into RAC? Well, fuck, dude... RAC is strongly tied to national socialism, and, as I said, I don't like em - well, I don't like radicals at all.

    Do I oppose attitude or lyrics in punk? Well, hang me up if I do. I treat anarcho-punks lyrics rather as a good dream, of a society that wouldn't need laws - that would know what's good for it without 'em. And do I oppose street punk? Dayum, I'm from a friggin working class, and those lyrics are kinda close to me!

    And sorry, but in Poland, all of those who are in Antifa are left-winged. And they are becoming fascists, just the same bastards as ONR - a group of fascists, nationalists and all that shit, which propagates rascism and is legal. Welcome to Poland.

    (and sorry for my bad English!)