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Political Convictions?

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by punkmar77, Aug 8, 2012.

  1. punkmar77

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    great news but this is the second time she's been released...let's see what happens
     
  2. punkmar77

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    FBI tailed Portland anarchists headed to May Day riot

    As the investigation into the May Day riot continues, recently unsealed court documents show the FBI’s interest in several suspects predated the political vandalism that swept downtown Seattle.

    Asking for permission to search electronics seized at several Portland “squats,” an FBI special agent outlined the allegations against six Portland anarchists suspected of traveling to Seattle for the May 1 demonstration.

    Investigators contend the Portland residents were among the 50 or so black-clad protesters who smashed windows, clashed with police and attacked members of the media around downtown Seattle during the demonstration. An FBI surveillance team apparently followed the group north from Portland; investigators claim to have recovered text messages tying them to the violence.

    According to the special agent’s statement, which was filed in U.S. District Court at Seattle and unsealed Thursday, five of the six protestors are suspected of damaging the William Kenzo Nakamura Courthouse during the May Day demonstrations. They were joined in the vandalism by seven other anarchists and several unaffiliated demonstrators.

    Writing the court, the FBI agent suggested the protesters came to Seattle to destroy property.

    “Although many anarchists are law-abiding, there is a history in the Pacific Northwest of some anarchists participating in property destruction and other criminal activity in support of their political philosophy,” said the agent, who is assigned to the FBI Seattle office’s terrorism task force.

    The agent went on to name six Oregon residents suspected in the vandalism. All are anarchists known to Portland-area law enforcement; the FBI agent contends text messages and surveillance show they traveled to Seattle for the protest, and, in one case, described the day as “awesome.”

    None of the suspects identified in the recently unsealed search warrant have been charged publicly in the May Day vandalism. Seattlepi.com does not generally name suspects prior to charges being filed.

    Well-publicized inquiries are currently before grand juries in Seattle and Portland, but no indictments against these suspects have been made public as yet.

    Writing the court, the FBI agent contended Portland police have recovered clothing seen during the protests during the search of a residence associated with several of the suspects.

    An FBI surveillance team followed five of the suspects north from Portland when they drove to Olympia the day before the May 1 riots, the FBI agent told the court. The surveillance team broke off after the group arrived in Olympia but text messages recovered by the FBI and rental car receipts indicate they arrived in Seattle the morning of May 1.

    Requesting a warrant to examine 25 devices seized by investigators, the special agent asserted several vandals are suspected of destroying government property, crossing state lines to riot and conspiring to commit the same crimes.

    Aware that some anarchists were preparing for “direct actions,” police and federal officers prepared for vandalism around downtown Seattle, the agent told the court. In the riot that followed, a group of about 50 protesters dressed in black damaged banks, retail outlets and the Nakamura Courthouse, while also attacking police and members of the media.

    Investigators contend 12 people dressed in black – what investigators describe as “black bloc” uniform – vandalized the courthouse, causing tens of thousands of dollars in damage. According to the FBI report, a vandal threw an incendiary device similar to a road flare at the courthouse.

    Describing the vandals as “clearly coordinated,” the agent told the court a wave of black-clad rioters would attack the building, then retreat to make way for another wave. While they were doing so, two other protesters unaffiliated with the anarchist group joined the destruction.

    Having identified the Oregon suspects, investigators in Portland searched a Mississippi Avenue “squat” where several were believed to be living. The search was conducted as part of an investigation into vandalism of a Portland Key Bank in which one of the men is accused.

    Text messages recovered in that search purportedly show the group planned to participate in a riot. They also show the protesters working out some basic logistics.

    “I only cut the shirt in half becsuse its not big enough,” one suspect wrote. “If you can figure out two slightly small bandanas out of it, thatd be great.”

    In subsequent searches, investigators recovered other clothing they contend links the suspects to the vandalism. Investigators also seized 14 pieces of electronics and 11 CDs, which they’ve now thoroughly searched.

    The search warrant was issued Oct. 3 by U.S. Magistrate Judge Mary Alice Theiler. The affidavit and warrant were unsealed Thursday.

    http://anarchistnews.org/content/fbi-ta ... y-day-riot
     
  3. ungovernable

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    What do you think about that ?

    http://nopoliticalrepression.wordpress. ... -for-leah/

    http://anarchistnews.org/content/leah-l ... operates-0


    Leah needs to provide more information. Refusing to explain herself and hiding makes her looks like a snitch.
     
  4. punkmar77

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    It certainly looks like that is the case...I was watching some video of that latest Occupy Wall Street anniversary gathering with Jello and Tom Morello and two people away from Jello and at one point actually singing into the microphone with him was an informant that is well known to me, the state has unlimited resources that it uses to its advantage at every turn, it's no surprise to me when they actually manage to infiltrate our most intimate circles...however I refuse to become paranoid about it, I just stay a little extra vigilant is all...
     
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    Looks like we're facing some pretty bad times. Rumors here has it that the government will make new laws, giving anarchists harder sentences, as they are "less likely to be integrated into modern society" - ultimately meaning that anarchists will be prosecuted for their political beliefs. Even if the sentence has nothing to do with anarchists movements or actions.

    I've followed the case of Leah, Matt and Kteeo from here - luckily, it does get a lot of attention, but let's face it, Leah is a "famous" face on multiple social networking sites, especially Tumblr. I really fear what will happen now that she is out, the whole focus may very well disappear - especially when her friends are out. Ultimately meaning that less "famous" anarchists can be subjected to the same treatment.
    And now, these "treatments" are coming to Europe as well.
     
  6. Shuei

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    I think even if Leah did say something, I admire her for standing this long. Didn't she write something about having PTSS from the treatment from the state earlier? And to me, it sounds like she has really done a lot to resist.
    I know that the best thing we can hope is that everybody understands that they do not need to talk, but if we start calling her a "snitch" we forget the human element. We have to consider humans into this, and show support for those who do their best - if not, we're no better than a bureaucratic fascist state.
     
  7. Spike one of many

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    abso-lutely
     
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    Im sorry if im outta line for saying this, but to me it seems like the only reason she got so much attention is because she is a good looking girl. i mean she said herself in a post one of you guys posted that she feels the other two wernt getting the same support or something like that, i wonder why that is?
     
  9. punkmar77

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    Well I would agree with you on that point shuei, but at the same time she's the one that made all those statements to the press, which on my part makes me feel much less empathetic to her suffering. When you involve yourself in direct action on that level you have to do so with the knowledge that these things are going to happen, you will be arrested, you will do time, you will be harassed while doing your time, you cannot pass the responsibilities for doing your time on to your fellow activists because now you've changed your mind about your level of commitment. We don't know for a fact that she snitched anyone out, but it sure is pointing that way... and the damage that these informants do is often times devastating to many other people, that is completely unforgivable.
     
  10. Shuei

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    Morethanfights:
    Yeah, exactly my point in my earlier post - she's semi-famous already before this happened, and when she is out, the attention to the case will fall. It's already happening.

    Punkmar77:
    But she weren't actually involved in this part, and besides, we all know what measures the state can use to make you talk. I don't think anyone can hold out indefinitely.
    But I do definitely see your point. I just have always thought, that if the fight against authority and a profit-oriented society makes us cynical warriors, then it's not worth it. We have to remember that all are humans, they all make mistakes, and we can all only commit to a certain level in order to maintain our own life and individual wishes - some can commit more than others.

    I think what she has done to raise awareness of the fascist measures of the state is invaluable to the anarchist community - no matter if she did so through her being "famous" or whatever.
     
  11. punkmar77

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    I don't agree, we have people that have suffered great injuries and been close to death (Tortuga in Chile, Tripas in Mexico City) in countries that are well documented for their torturing prisoners that have held their ground and their tongues...

    Way too much credit, I have to admit I was inspired by her words at first, but her actions let her words fall on their face....
     
  12. Shuei

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    Yes, but not everybody is alike, and this is an american girl, not a trained warrior. Don't make everyone seem like perfect resisters, we're all humans.

    I think it has opened the eyes for a lot of non-anarchist that undemocratic measures are being used in their own country, not just "other countries", due to how much these news has spread
     
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    Was the whole case much documented in the Danish media? Or just in the leftist circles? I have to say that I haven't seen any article about it in any of the mainstream French media and just one in the radical left media.
     
  14. Spike one of many

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    There was no mention about it in the south african media to my knowledge.
     
  15. Shuei

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    Crustybeckham:
    Only radical left media unfortunately, but the information has been heavily in circulation on social medias - I'm aware that the impact is probably limited, and will in most cases only reach those who already socialize with left-radicalists, but we can hope that it has been seen for some more people as well - I don't know about you guys, but I've got other people following my social media than punks and anarchists.
     
  16. punkmar77

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    This is a very sexist statement, I know some american "girls" that would put her to shame...quit making excuses for her betrayals.
     
  17. nclpw

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    I`m still wondering whether she will ever explain herself.
    Not to go completely off topic, but to all future activists; Might be an idea to cover up your traces and stay anonymous on the web and stuff like that. Facebook and personal tumblrs/blogs are a big nono. You don`t have to hand the police information for free you know. The literature, music, spray paint and all the things you keep in your house are nothing compared to the gold you have on your hard disks.
    CAPTAIN HINDSIGHT, THE HERO OF THE MODERN AGE TO YR RESCUE.
     
  18. punkmar77

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    ^ :lmao: absolutely right though...
     
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    Wow what an interesting story, and remember peeps always have a way out of the country your in, just in case...
     
  20. Shuei

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    Sexist? Not at all, it wasn't meant at all that way. I could have said an american boy as well, the point being that we're talking about nothing but a student, not anyone who's had any form of training or experience into the kind of war-like environment that you seems to be talking about, or possibly no experience with radical political confrontations before - as she has earlier stated, she was no where near the supposed happening, and I've read nothing claiming that she was often involved in radical actions.
    Further more, as far as I can see, she has got post-traumatic stress - This will definitely have an impact on her ability to stand before hard interrogations.
     
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