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Discussion in 'General political debates' started by Cocytus, Nov 9, 2009.

  1. Anxiety69

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    Wow... cocytus, you actually said something I agree with.
     
  2. Anxiety69

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    I thought i was done posting anything on this thread... but I have one more thing to say... For those types who think the military should just shrivel up and vanish... how long do u think it would be before a country like china or north korea invades and occupies the usa because we have no military anymore? It's a far fetched dream that no military in the usa would lead to complete freedom and anarchism. maybe for a minute before someone else decides to oppress. (Again, i do not support the military, but this is how it is.)
     
  3. Spider

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    Lol
    I'm all for equal opportunity humor so...
    [​IMG]
     
  4. Anxiety69

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    LOL good job spider :)
     
  5. oneleggedpunk

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    I find this picture strangely arousing, i think it might have something to do with the way the bloke is looking lovingly at the chicken.
     
  6. kaoskat

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    damn, spider, you owe me a keyboard. :lmao:
     
  7. NGNM85

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    No, they got rid of the draft because it totally eliminates the even slight possibility that a rich kid might have to go to war, it disolves a lot of the popular opposition, and, most importantly, virtually garuntees a "volunteer" army of the poor.

    False. Why are blacks and Latinos overwhelmingly represented in the military? The answer is poverty. To poor kids from poor families, it's the only way out. That's very tragic, and says something profoundly bad about our society, but it's the truth, and somethging we should be aware of and keep in mind.

    Not necessarily, the army employs hundreds of thousands for many, many different purposes, mechanics, computer programmers, architects, etc. A guy I used to work with is a chef at a military base. The only thing he wields is a spatula. (Which is good because he couldn't defend himself if his life depended on it.)

    No, they're probably just naive. They actually believe the bullshit they've been brainwashed with since they were a toddler. As you acknowledge, the media and the public education system (As well as the higher education to a slightly lesser degree.) present the establishment version of reality. You can't be surprised when people actually believe it. Again, the military aggressively persues the poor and poorly educated because they are desperate and easy to manipulate. You shouldn't be so quick to kick them in the teeth.

    Nobody is defending the wars in the Middle East. Unfortunately, though, as the Anxietiest pointed out, as long as other governments exists, so must ours. True Anarchism would virtually have to be global.

    I'll work with people who are intelligent or curious, and want to participate. I won't work with assholes and morons. I can't and won't work with Cocytus or anyone like him, same goes for primitavists, etc. Anybody who fits into one or both of those categories.
     
  8. ASA

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    yes as everyone says, context, better to do something than support in any form the biggest imposer of nations on the planets army at all and once in are part of, as individuals sure but until stripes are off, they r 'north korea'
     
  9. BlinkoChrist

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    This is weird that I thought of this but...don't ya think that if Russia or China or N. Korea took us over.....we would be more inclined to anarchy? I mean as a country. Mabye then people would realise how NOT to run a country and it would be the best possible time to spread ideas of REAL freedom
    Not that I am down for nuclear extinction :ecouteurs:
     
  10. ASA

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    fuck empire, full stop haha
     
  11. BlinkoChrist

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    But it all goes to the same thing. Who directs the missiles?
     
  12. Cocytus

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    Anyone who joins any branch of military for a job furthers the war machine, and is an enemy of mine.
     
  13. ungovernable

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    i thought i was done posting in this thread too, but i just want to add something

    in an anarchist society, we would still defend ourselves. Anarchists are non-violents, not fucking hippies. Non-violents answer aggression.

    In the spanish revolution there were a big "army" of autonomous antifascist brigade to resist the fascist and franco troops, and another good example is the zapatist movement and the EZLN which is an autonomous army (the name itself means "national zapatist liberation ARMY")...... During the bolcheviks reign in USSR there were also the Makhnovtchina anarchist army led by Nestor Makhno, a very famous anarchist. And kronsdadt soldiers who were part of the red army but became rebellious against authoritarian communists in USSR.

    Anarchism doesn't means getting hit on the cheek and then showing the other cheek to get hit again!

    But armies like the ones i describe will be built on the ashes of the armies of today, not WITH them ! fuck reforms, and fuck reforming war even more.
     
  14. Rabbit

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    They were banned not for their Islamic views, but for their homophobia and attacks on other members. Go check the politics thread if you want to read what actually happened.
    1. Nazist isn't a word
    2. Stupid, stupid use of "Nazi" here
    3. Please read what happened yourself before you comment on it.
    Glad to know that you are willing to ally yourself with those who support the killing of innocent people based on race, religion or sexual orientation. They are as much enemies of anarchy as any government. They want to set up a totalitarian Islamist theocracy where things like women leaving the house without a man or sodomy receive the death penalty. Your pro-feminist statements don't make sense if you back those who are violently opposed to women's rights.

    Wait a minute, you said you were against the US Army why? Support of a corrupt regime? Killing of innocents?
    Where to begin? First, 5000 years? You pulled that out of your ass. Judaism is roughly that old. Christianity began around 30 A.D., making it 2000 years old and Islam started around 500 A.D., meaning that the lifestyle supported by "supposed terrorists" is less than 1500 years old.
    In regards to destroying their lifestyle, sure I agree there that some of their outrage is justified. The problem is that they are not defensive. They want to kill someone in Denmark who drew a comic mocking their leader. Hell, in European countries where they immigrate to, they impose their lifestyle without so much as learning to communicate with the native people. Don't confuse my position here, I am not at all anti-immigrant, but it is hypocritical to say that the West is imposing its culture on them and they are not doing the same.

    Also, their beliefs are oppressive and moronic. They should be opposed as much as any Western government. If you think that freedom of speech is even remotely important, you have no business supporting Islamic extremists.
    Again, you are completely wrong here. Islam is 500 years younger than Christianity.
    Ironic how you talk about ignorance when you yourself don't have a clue about Islam's history.
    The board does in fact have rules against things like sexism and homophobia. If you read the thread that you are ranting about, you would notice that homophobia was the issue in question.
     
  15. BlinkoChrist

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    The person WASNT being completly homophobic. He/she was bashing nobody simply saying *out of context* he/she wouldnt like buttsex. It's crap that he/she got banned....I shouldnt be saying this or i just might.
     
  16. Spider

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    i waas actually much more offended by the disgusting anti-religious sentiments and racism displayed in that thread, calling the girl "bin Laden" and "Al quaeda" purely because she was a muslim. That's the same kind of mindless insult that gets thrown around by hammer skins. Personally i have tried anal sex and also find it aesthetically repulsive for the same reasons she described, and i would also like to state, as she did, that i have no objections to anybody else partaking in it with man OR woman. If that is really grounds for banning then maybe this site isn't as freedom focused and anti fascist as they claim to be. Throwing a molotov makes you violent, it doesn't necessarily make you Antifa.
     
  17. Cocytus

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    Back on topic, Fuck the Troops.
     
  18. Anxiety69

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    zzzzz
     
  19. ASA

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    yip its over for them
     
  20. Keesling

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    Let me just say , as a active soldier in the united states army , what the fuck are you thinking? Fuck the troops? I can understand you are obviously a heavy arrogant extremist for anarchy and demolishment of the system Mr. 'Cocytus' but we are talking about human beings here. To automatically engage everyone in a particular group as a enemy is just a true definition and example of ignorance.Then to say you support terrorism? yeah , yeah , "revolution has its price" if that's where you were heading with that statement , you need to sit back and ponder your thoughts because you nothing more then a mere contradiction.

    Cocytus you're views are more fucked up then a soup sandwich.

    There are many people like myself with a heavy punk background that joined for more reasons then to 'Kill innocent civilians'. To say that you are happy to see son's and daughter's in a body bag because of their military employer? You look at people in uniform as a statistic no better then any elitist. To say we support the system you are against , why don't you take a step back and look at the big picture of reality here? The 17 year old behind the cash register supports the system. The consumer supports the system. To bash the troops as if we have no personality is ridiculous.

    You've got people in this uniform from every state. Every religion. Different takes on politics. Different backgrounds all together , and you wanna put us all in one big pile and just look at us like we are murderous , ruthless animals?

    Get your fucking head checked soup sandwich.
     
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