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Indiana legalizes shooting cops

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by THEBLACKNOVA, Jun 24, 2012.

  1. THEBLACKNOVA

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    Indiana legalizes shooting cops
    Published: 11 June, 2012, 21:31 By: Russia Today

    Hold onto your holsters, folks: shooting a cop dead is now legal in the state of Indiana.

    Governor Mitch Daniels, a Republican, has authorized changes to a 2006 legislation that legalizes the use of deadly force on a public servant — including an officer of the law — in cases of “unlawful intrusion.” Proponents of both the Second and Fourth Amendments — those that allow for the ownership of firearms and the security against unlawful searches, respectively — are celebrating the update by saying it ensures that residents are protected from authorities that abuse the powers of the badge.

    Others, however, fear that the alleged threat of a police state emergence will be replaced by an all-out warzone in Indiana.

    Under the latest changes of the so-called Castle Doctrine, state lawmakers agree “people have a right to defend themselves and third parties from physical harm and crime.” Rather than excluding officers of the law, however, any public servant is now subject to be met with deadly force if they unlawfully enter private property without clear justification.

    “In enacting this section, the general assembly finds and declares that it is the policy of this state to recognize the unique character of a citizen's home and to ensure that a citizen feels secure in his or her own home against unlawful intrusion by another individual or a public servant,” reads the legislation.

    Although critics have been quick to condemn the law for opening the door for assaults on police officers, supporters say that it is necessary to implement the ideals brought by America’s forefathers. Especially, argue some, since the Indiana Supreme Court almost eliminated the Fourth Amendment entirely last year. During the 2011 case of Barnes v. State of Indiana, the court ruled that a man who assaulted an officer dispatched to his house had broken the law before there was “no right to reasonably resist unlawful entry by police officers.” In turn, the National Rifle Association lobbied for an amendment to the Castle Doctrine to ensure that residents were protected from officers that abuse the law to grant themselves entry into private space.

    “There are bad legislators,” the law’s author, State Senator R. Michael Young (R) tells Bloomberg News. “There are bad clergy, bad doctors, bad teachers, and it’s these officers that we’re concerned about that when they act outside their scope and duty that the individual ought to have a right to protect themselves.”

    Governor Daniels agrees with the senator in a statement offered through his office, and notes that the law is only being established to cover rare incidents of police abuse that can escape the system without reprimand for officers or other persons that break the law to gain entry.

    “In the real world, there will almost never be a situation in which these extremely narrow conditions are met,” Daniels says. “This law is not an invitation to use violence or force against law enforcement officers.”

    Officers in Indiana aren’t necessarily on the same page, though. “If I pull over a car and I walk up to it and the guy shoots me, he’s going to say, ‘Well, he was trying to illegally enter my property,’” Sergeant Joseph Hubbard tells Bloomberg. “Somebody is going get away with killing a cop because of this law.”

    “It’s just a recipe for disaster,” Indiana State Fraternal Order of Police President Tim Downs adds. “It just puts a bounty on our heads.”

    Source: http://rt.com/usa/news/indiana-shooting-law-state-591/

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  2. JesusCrust

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    While I like the idea in essence, I feel like this is only going to make NRA hicks more trigger happy with a sense that they can get away with more then just shooting a cop entering their home. I guess I sound like one of the liberal critiques to the law, I mean, it's a great thing, but at the same time, it's adding fuel to the fire of the paranoia of the right. What's next, jumpy rednecks shooting socialists and anarchists because they feel their "freedom" is threatened?
     
  3. THEBLACKNOVA

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    It brings up a lot of interesting questions up...

    1. The privatization of police in some areas, due to the "economy" and budget cuts? The cops become private security for anyone who can afford them and every one else is left to fend for themselves?

    2. Are local community left to defend themselves? And if the community's can't afford cops due to budget cuts well at least the local citizens can protect themselves.

    3. If the local community is sitting on some raw material for production the gated community wants will they send their private army and just take it?

    4. Could you take up arms and rise up in a community and take it over and protect your selves? Like the Zapatistas?

    5. Can squatters defend themselves from cops who enter? What if you did not know you were in a squat? Your word against a dead cop?

    6. Are people feeling like shit is hitting the fan and they can't trust government anymore and they got to defend themselves? It's a good thing, i think.

    Well its gonna be interesting to see what happens there...
     
  4. JesusCrust

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    At this point, I see it as sort of a social experiment. Something I'll want to keep up on just to see how it goes over with peoples 21st century western mindset. It will definitely be interesting to see how this plays out.

    I also decided just now, that every time I respond to you, or something you posted, the responding comment will involve Fry in some way.


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  5. anarchoskin69

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    This is old news, but thats kind of typical of APN. Just saying.

    Being from the Metro East Chicago located in Indiana, I support anything that gives me justification to take out a pig. I like how the article says it is going to end in an all-out war zone in Indiana once the austerity measures deepen. Honestly, Mitch Daniels is a Republican but he's probably one of the most centrist of them if not the very most centrist one. He's not a NRA nut job, and I 'd never vote for him, and people in Indiana may be a bunch of hicks, but god dammit they're hicks from my hometown state and none of em like the state, law enforcement, ect.
     
  6. punkmar77

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    That's a pretty whack generalization....just sayin.
     
  7. THEBLACKNOVA

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    Yup same here. I'm like thinking maybe the first ones to get shot would be Sheriffs trying to evict people living in foreclosed homes. BANG YOUR DEAD COP!

    HA i just heard about it, i'm hear on the west coast HA

    Same here!
     
  8. THEBLACKNOVA

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    OH

    APN = Anarcho-Punk.Net

    HAHA

    Well post some cutting edge opinions or news, give us the scoop anarchoskin69...

    HAHA
     
  9. anarchoskin69

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    I could funnel everything from anarchistnews.org, infoshop.org and the occasional video/article from my facebook newsfeed but I seriously go through so much information every day it's unbelievable. By the way, too bad APN couldn't set up a forum section or forum thread for anarchistnews.org and infoshop.org, and run some sort of thing where every time a new article comes out its posted to that forum section/thread, or each site could have its own section/thread. ive seen forums do that for punknews.org, but punknews.org is 95% irrelevant to this site. which is sad. anyways, ive seen it done i just dont have the tech savvy to know how it'd be done :S
     
  10. sali(e)

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    good thoughts Fry
    some good ideas anarchoskin69

    good question blacknova
     
  11. JesusCrust

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    I get a stupid amount of news, and articles and shit from my FB too. Too much to just re-post everything,
     
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  13. JesusCrust

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