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What Bank Did Your City Sell Out To?

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by fubarista, Mar 17, 2012.

  1. fubarista

    fubarista Experienced Member Experienced member


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    "Leftist" and "socialist" governments seem to be indistinguishable, in many cases, from right-wing capitalist governments. Obviously the problem isn't whether they're considered to be left or right, the problem is that they're governments.

    So which banks own Brazil?
     
  2. fubarista

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    Well, that was a dumb question. I've read Thy Will Be Done: The Conquest of the Amazon : Nelson Rockefeller and Evangelism in the Age of Oil by Gerard Colby and Charlotte Dennett, so I'm aware that the Rockefellers consider all of Latin America to be their private property. Whatever banks own Brazil, they would be banks owned or controlled by the Rockefellers. Dilma went from dissident to oligarch and has been richly rewarded.
     
  3. grinding hault

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    I wont say where I live because I'm paranoid like that, but how exactly would I go about finding out which bank my city sold out to?
     
  4. fubarista

    fubarista Experienced Member Experienced member


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    Good question, hault. Try googling the name of your city plus the words "rate swap" or "interest rate swap" or even just "loans to" or "debts."

    The city budget should be a public record, but it will probably be huge, hard to decipher, and might not even name the specific bank.

    If your city has a taxpayers' association, they might know. And there would have been news stories when the city signed the deals.

    Kind of stupefying to find out what government has done to us--we don't know where our money goes and we have no say in it.

    Voters are so trusting. They believe that whoever is elected will, because they become part of government, make sane decisions. But only psychopaths seek office in a corrupt system, so only psychopaths get elected.
     
  5. butcher

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    full lulz
     
  6. chief sevenleaf

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    Strange that I didn't get notifications for this thread.

    @ Ben : i'm near enough to Austin to enjoy clean water & an open-minded community but far enough to have a great farmer's market and less cops.

    @ Mar : I see where your coming from with Brazil & the IMF, but don't forget that the very problems that 'beneficial social programs' are supposed to solve are 'shortcomings of a capitalist state'.

    @ Mark : Yeah I didn't mean to quote that whole article (don't see an edit button anymore), just the part about municipal derivative fraud. Of course it doesn't matter what settlement or restitution may come from it now; Those are just politricks. It's the people that have to pay for shit like this, one way or another. Like you said, it's the system that's got to go.

    Couldn't agree more.

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    oh, and to embed videos : [ video ] video's URL here [ / video] (no spaces)
     
  7. fubarista

    fubarista Experienced Member Experienced member


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    Thanks for the tip on embedding videos, Chief. Gotta try it out.....

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZuNsJAGByU[/video]

    That was me four years ago, so you know I like the Vote for Nobody poster, but of course it is better not to vote at all. And I got one thing wrong in that video. Although they'd been sentenced, the elections officials never spent a day in jail, no less prison.

    Anyway I've been banned from a lot of "liberal" and "progressive" crap-boards for suggesting people not vote. One of 'em is called OpEdNews and is owned by an arrogant authoritarian named Rob Kall. He and his crew spent a long time saying that I was clinically insane (I never argue with that one), full of shit, and that not voting is a stupid idea. When they banned me in '08, Rob announced a new rule that anyone who suggested not voting would also be banned. So a few days ago when I clicked on a link to a transcript of a talk about not voting given by Dennis Loo at the Left Forum in New York, I was surprised to see it was on Rob's board. I emailed Dennis for permission to post it on my own website and he said okay, so check it out:

    http://fubarandgrill.org/node/1360

    Dennis expressed surprise that Rob had ever had such a rule. It seems that Rob had been at his talk and had personally asked Dennis to post it on OEN. So does that mean that Rob is now clinically insane, full of shit, and stupid?

    Or does it only mean that as an amoral opportunist, he's doing the old, "Quick! Which way did they go? I'm their leader!" :lmao:
     
  8. butcher

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  9. grinding hault

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    thanks. nelnet & jp morgan chase. way to make a dude hate everything all over again.
     
  10. Sick Boy 77

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    I live in Charlotte, NC. What bank did this city sell-out too? Hmmmm. Seeing how we are home to two of the largest banks in the US (Wachoive aka Wells Fargo and Bank of America) I think this city is past the sell-out point. It is now the largest banking city in America.
     
  11. fubarista

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    If you haven't seen this Rolling Stone article about Bank of America by Matt Taibbi, Anarcho4Life, I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

    Bank of America: Too Crooked to Fail

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/ne ... l-20120314

    I think that what is really meant when politicians say that something is too big to fail, is that it is too big to fail without taking the whole capitalist system down with it, an outcome long overdue. In general I'm against kicking anyone when they're down, but I'd make exceptions for banks and capitalism. Some silver bullets and wooden stakes through their vampire hearts might also be a good idea.
     
  12. Sick Boy 77

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    @ mymarkx
    Damn. That is fucked up. I knew they were evil incarnate but had no clue how bad. Thanks for the article. I will pass it on.
     
  13. Doktor Howl

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    Tucson is too small fry for any of the banks to really notice. Wells Fargo is definitely present, and Countrywide did some damage...but Tucson is run by Jim Click, an auto dealer who pretty much owns the whole city, and a political machine that makes precisely no distinction between republicans and democrats, etc.

    At least it isn't Phoenix, though. That has to count for something.
     
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