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Discussion in 'New members introductions' started by KillUncleSam, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. Bakica

    Bakica Experienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Isn't Christiania closed or something ?

    If you think all this is 'far fetched' then I don't know what are you doing here.
     
  2. AgentOrange

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    Christiania in Denmark is accepted to be bought by the inhabitants, not so long ago (read it in some german newspaper some months ago...), so, one can discuss whether it's successful or not ;)

    http://christiania.org/

    for more infos, seems to be an official website...

    not much to add apart from that...
     
  3. vAsSiLy77

    vAsSiLy77 Experienced Member Uploader Experienced member Forum Member


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    And following your logic, uncle sam, what about:
    Too much far fetched to be successful these days?
    Nihilism... :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
     
  4. KillUncleSam

    KillUncleSam Member Forum Member


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    . . . ?
     
  5. butcher

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    Nihilism and Rolling On The Floor Laughing are too far fetched for me; prove to me they can work on a large scale.
    PROVE IT
    PROVE IT
     
  6. vAsSiLy77

    vAsSiLy77 Experienced Member Uploader Experienced member Forum Member


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    If you doubt the sheer possibility of a free society because each anarchists try to create one was eliminated in history - thus justifying the state as necessary as you did - so everything from atheism down to gay rights counts for nothing too - because there is still superstitions and homophobia & racism in the world.

    So why bother about anything else but your very own belly button? (That's what nihilism is made for - IMO)
     
  7. KillUncleSam

    KillUncleSam Member Forum Member


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    Because I have my sense of what is right and what is wrong just like everyone else does, and because there's probably no meaning to our existence, we might as well make our purpose in life whatever we want it to be.
     
  8. punkmar77

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    Look I understand that you are convinced you have things figured out at 16, but you don't, If you are not against the State then by default you are for the State. If you are not part of a solution then by default again you are part of the problem, all of those things you noted on your 'anti' list are exacerbated by oppression from the State. Nihilism is complete selfishness and accomplishes nothing for those around you, if you're fine with that then carry on....
     
  9. KillUncleSam

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    I never said that I was convinced that I have things figured out at 16; I'm completely aware of the fact that I'm young and stupid, and I acknowledge that.

    I never said I wasn't against the State, and even if it did, it wouldn't mean that I was for it. I could be for it, against it, or apathetic towards it.

    A nihilist, or at least an existential nihilist, acknowledges that there's probably no meaning to life, so we should stop searching for a meaning and create a meaning for our existence. Just because I think there's no universal meaning that was given to all life doesn't mean that I'm selfish and don't care about anyone else. Hell, I could make my meaning in life a devotion to helping people.
     
  10. butcher

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    What's yr point? There is no meaning outside of what we construct for ourselves, that's pretty obvious.
    As such, let's revisit yr statement:
    The state, and religion, are both historical constructions, they do not exist in a vacuum, nor are they expressions of some 'essential' human nature, or some such shit. In short, they are created, and maintained, by people for certain social, economic and political reasons.

    We create meaning(s) for our existence and, by extension, the way we interact with each other, the form our society takes, etc, etc,. Thus, yr definition of existential nihilism stands in contradiction with yr statement of the inevitability of the State. The State isn't some natural institution, its created by people, it can be destroyed by people (although it necessitates the defeat of those who uphold it).
     
  11. nike

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    ... and change nothing, because you never rise against the source of human suffering to end it once and for all?
    the system we oppose depends on murderers and saints - first the hurting, then the sticking plasters to cover the wounds that have been inflicted, who's next?
    on the other side, the only way to "help" people in need is to assist them helping themselves, supporting them to make their own decisions, live their own life without the harassment of authority and religion.
    just watching, writing books and use the existentialists' backdoor exit changes nothing.