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Pirate punx - Who are they?

Discussion in 'Music, punk scene & subcultures' started by SenI, Dec 29, 2009.

  1. Bakica

    Bakica Experienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    what's playtimer?
     
  2. punkmar77

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    Hi troll, you can only be one of two people, Willie 'Pay To Play' Psycho, or Internet 'I Have A Huge Chip On My Shoulder' Badass either way you are now officially a piece of shit on APN, nobody is perfect, we all have problems that we try to deal with in the best way we can, I don't know anything about Sid's past problems, nor do I care, we are the punks, not the model citizen-all American-Jack and Suzy Promqueen, if this is Willie, and I'm 99% sure it is, then all I have to say to you is you're not a punk, you were never a punk, and you will never be a punk, every single original punk from SD thinks you are the biggest joke wannabe that ever showed his twoface around here, and no amount of internet shit-talking about Sid will ever change that. When I first met Sid we had some serious differences of opinion, but when I brought those to him he recognized his areas that needed improvement and took steps to grow, which was something that earned my respect immediately, he wasn't cocky, arrogant, or disrespectful to this old punk and as far as I'm concerned I have his back completely. You on the other hand, can straight fuck off....
     
  3. beerintheshower

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    No grudges here I just call it as I see it. What you kids can't take someones opinion? That's pretty sad. I'm just one of the few around here that aren't brainwashed by them. And as far as willie psycho goes I'm sorry to disappoint you but I am not him. But the pirate punks will be ran out and forgotten about and go back to being the kids in the scene that nobody cared about in the first place. You kids all have a wonderful life I'm off of this internet squabble.
     
  4. adamcrisis

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    Im not sure how long you have been around san diego. But 5 years ago the scene here was a total joke. Skitsystem coming to town to play to 30 people. Forward playing to 20 people. It was embarrassing trying to help out touring bands because you knew no matter how hard you promoted and fliered and spread the word, that itd be a piss poor turn out. And the promoters that were around and would bring the bigger acts to town would make the opening bands pre sell tickets, then those promoters (willie psycho, phil wasted, jj) would not pay out the openers, and would often underpay the touring acts. It was total bullshit.

    The Pirate Punks got formed up and now you have consistent all ages spots, you have consistent shows. Bands come to town and have a good time and the bands Ive helped get shows have been taken care of excellently by the Pirate Punks.

    Also, the great thing about DIY, is anyone can participate. So why dont you make it better? Put on some rad show, help out some touring bands.
     
  5. JackNegativity

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    You, sir, have the right fucking attitude :thumbsup:
     
  6. punkmar77

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    :lmao: Yeah ok
     
  7. SwampPunx

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    hahaha what a fucking loser. Who the fuck is gonna run us out? Willy Psycho and his 'Juggalo Army'? Go fuck yourself :ecouteurs:
     
  8. San Diego Pyrate Punx

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    Just to clear it up, as far as what we are and what we do.... for the dude earlier in the thread:

    Pyrate Punx as a whole is a network of like minded DIY promoters. We have formed chapters in most major west coast cities and sprinkled all over the country and the world. We are aligned to preserve DIY ethics for punk shows and create a network where touring bands can rely on us to provide meals, top payouts and awesome shows in a foreign city. That is it, we do shows, we are here to speak out against things like pay to play and shitty profit promoters in our city and take back and separate punk rock from corporate venues. We are NON PROFIT and make NO money personally off of the shows that we do. We are a group of musicians and music supporters aligned for the greater good of the local scene. We do everything from huge national/international acts to smaller no name bands from random cities. We do shows in everything from legit local venues to illegal shows in parks, backyards and other places. We do not allow violence at our shows nor do we allow any kind of racists, fascist or xenophobic bullshit onto our scene and we heavily DO NOT allow violence whatsoever at our show. If you are violent, or have violent tendencies, you have no place at our shows.

    In our almost 5 years of existence we have encountered all kinds of speedbumps along the way from cops, kids, haters, skumfuks, hosers, club owners, other promoters, etc...and the remarks by "beer in the shower" are a very good example of just that...some people find the need to demonize a whole group or organization that is here for the greater good by saying stuff like were woman beaters, profiteers, fascists, you name it...
    I don't really blame this dude for his ignorance, I'm assuming that he has never thrown a show before in his/her life and has no idea that if you don't charge at the door, the bands don't get paid, which is the whole reason why were here. The idea that we would take the money and "go get drunk with it after the show" is fuckin' ridiculous. All the bands get paid with that money, the bulk of the money gets split evenly with the venue and us and our cut goes to the bands and production costs (rentals, meals, fliers, etc...). With the money that the attendees put in, absolutely not ONE penny goes into any of our pockets whatsoever. I don't blame him though because the extent of his showgoing experiences, he is probably pissed off that he has to pay money to get into the show because he can't see past himself or his own needs and supports the scene not. 90% of the SD Pyrate Punx have jobs and careers, lives, etc and doing shows and supporting the scene is just a hobby, aka as we have our own income and can AFFORD OUR OWN FUCKIN' BEER!! But you know, its probably a lot easier to go on the internet and hide behind a screename and say a bunch of untrue shit about an organization that is here to help HIM out. Or maybe he'd rather go pay $25 at house of blues for a show that we would throw for 8 bux, i dunno-some people are masochistic like that.

    As far as other people throwing shows in our bars, I don't give a shit, We work with bars that do everything from runway fashion shows to karaoke and everything in between, there are a lot of people who book at all of the bars I do shows at so I have no fucking clue what yer talkin' bout. maybe some sort of misunderstanding or complication in the past with booking??

    As far as the sewer shows (the purest form of DIY punk show in our city). YES we were the first ones to start that. YES I played/helped setup the very first show down there, it was for our friends birthday and my band, krakass, played down there with run for your fucking life. So yes, in fact we were the first ones to play/start/run that shit. Well, the only truth in beerintheshower's statement is that we were not Pyrate Punx back then as it was in the years '99-'00 and were only 5 years old as an organization but I myself, personally have been doing shows for about ten years now here locally. I'm sure he was at the hindquarter show i did with toxic narcotic (judging by the screename) in '04 or whatever and prolly had a good fuckin' time. The point I'm making here is that he was prolly all for what I was doing then, but now that I'm a part of an organization, there is just nothing but hatred from him and everyone else that he feels we are "brainwashing" kids somehow by doing shows and supporting a local scene.The only reason we frown on people doing their own shows down there in the sewers is because it is a meticulous formula to throw them and involves all kinds of side-work and techniques and tricks. There is a system that we have developed over the years on how to do it and that's the only way it will ever work. there has been a few cases where defiant IDIOTS take it upon themselves to try and throw a sewer show instead of finding their own spot and each one of those times cops have showed up in full force because the people throwing the shows are idiots and don't know how its done or how to secure the shows and control the drunken idiots who attend these things. We have thrown a show literally just 2 weeks after one was thrown by an outside party that got raided with no police involvement, how did that happen? because we know our sewers. NOW, the place has been burnt out by defiant kids that it is hard to pull off anything down there. And every single one of these people that did not heed our warnings that ended up burning out our spot were told that we would help them do one. That's all we ask, if you really wanna play a sewer show, hold your horses and let us do it for you, lets work together on it, we will show you the right way to do it and we will work together on it, that's all we ask. In an attempt to preserve the spot that we started. That is all.

    Now as far as me "beating my ex girlfriend" and "having a kid I barely take care of" I have this too say...I have an ex with whom I have a child. I have not seen my child for over 5 years. The mother took off with her and is keeping her away from me as she has been for the last few years. I have searched high and low for her but to no avail. In this 5 years time that she has taken off from me she has received several charges for crystal methamphetamine and has burned her parents house down among other things. This may give you an idea of her mentality and demeanor. She has completely fallen off the grid and is impossible to be found. I am currently on the path to track her down and seek out my rights as a father and get my daughter back but until then I am stuck in limbo with her, as it has presented a problem seeing that there is a million organizations out there to help women in these type of situations but absolutely none for men which means I have to do all this stuff myself. So the "he has a kid he barely takes care of" statement is also false. Unfortunately, I do not take care of my kid whatsoever, she has been stripped of me and I may never see her again in my whole life. It wares on my soul everyday and it hurts real fucking bad. Everyday I wish I could see her, hang out with her , play with her and be a father again but I cant...because I chose the exact WRONG person to have a child with and have been stripped away from her illegally and immorally. If this is something that you feel is kosher to bring up on the internet and try and talk shit on me about, cool, but it kinda seems like a fucked up thing to speak out about, something I can do nothing about, kinda like making fun or talking shit on someone who is handicapped. One of the reasons that we broke up is my objections to her alcoholism and violent tendencies when drunk, as anyone who knew her/us back then will tell you. I myself am a very peaceful person and have not gotten anywhere near to a fight for almost ten years (when i was a douchey squatter kid) besides the physical altercations perpetuated and started by her during our disagreements about her violent alcoholism where she would attempt to prove me wrong by doing cool shit like waking me up by slamming a coffee table over my head cause i was sleeping in the living room in protest of her being drunk and crazy in which case I had to physically restrain her until she calmed the fuck down. This, coupled with the boxing matches in the back yard at parties with my friends and knocking out cold other girls at the shows we would attend eventually led to us breaking up and her leaving me and taking my child and proving to me once and for all that "shes not like that" or whatever. So, did I "have an ex i used to beat all the time"? no, not at all, I have no history of domestic violence or any kind of violence whatsoever. On my record or otherwise. I would never lay a hand on a woman OR a man unless it was out of self defense or to physically remove them from a show where they were being violent and even then no punches are thrown and every situation we have encountered in the last 5 years has been handled professionally and maturely with no violence.

    So there you go man, there's yer answer to your shitalking. I'm convinced...mostly by your lack of poor grammar and mature responses that you are not Willie Psycho. In fact I know your not also because you're actually into good music and have a good head on your shoulders and don't seem like yer looking for an ongoing argument like Willie does.

    So next time, I would ask if you would have some common fuckin' respect and if your gunna bring up personal shit on the internet that shouldnt be brought up about me or any of the other Pyrates, come find us at a show. come have a face to face with any of us and we will be glad to answer any questions you may have pertaining to our policies regarding shows or our personal lives or whatnot since you seem to be so interested in being up in my shit.

    Also, I'm assuming that when we get "run out" that you are gunna take over and make this shit happen...oh wait, shit, that's right- because of your shit talking you "ran out" the only group of people that are making DIY happen in your town on the scale that we have and now there is no shows. And all the big touring bands are going to house of blues and 4th and B and SOMA now and you have to pay $50 tickets to see the same shows and you have to give some greedy shit bag promoter $400 in pre sold tickets to be able to open for some half ass touring band. Why is that? oh, cuz you "ran out" the Pyrates and you shit on your own scene, good job there butthole, way to be punk.

    -Sid
     
  9. NOOBSLAYER

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    Sid

    DUDE! if they cant understand this post I would not wast my time. Haters are always trying to suppers a movement. It is actually a complement, the more haters you have the better you are doing ha ha ha!

    Kibbles.
     
  10. NOOBSLAYER

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    Punkmarr77 your a fucking hoser!
     
  11. snookams

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    off topic: how are punks and juggalos related in any way, or at least how did that relation come to be? i've noticed them in huntington beach, punk juggalos that is....random
     
  12. punkmar77

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    This is you...

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    this is me...

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  13. SenI

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    To San Diego Pyrate Punx (Sid):

    Thanx for the information :). Interesting facts you gave.
     
  14. ungovernable

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    Yes thanks for the information, very interessing, i like the concept of that... I heard about the Pirate punx and saw a couple of myspaces but i never really knew what it was all about.... We should make a pirate punk chapter here in quebec !
     
  15. PuroPinchePaisa

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    who has a connect for pirate punx in tijuana? i want to set up a gig over there soon.
     
  16. punkmar77

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    http://www.facebook.com/?sk=lf#!/tijuanapyratepunx

    My friend Santero the drummer for Massakro is the TJ Captain....tell him Mar sent ya'
     
  17. Ivanovich

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    Well, Sid and Pirate Punx, you sound ok to me, good work.
     
  18. AndrewFred

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    theres a bunch of chapters in the Willamette Valley up here in oregon (Salem[my area],Portland,Eugene, and even Methford) and i gotta say that i love what you guys do! keep it up in all chapters
     
  19. izlude7980

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    damn, i try to contact the SD pyrate punx for my band DVT to play but they never seem to reply
     
  20. punkmar77

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    Who are you trying to contact? You should be trying to contact Phil at the Metaphor Cafe in Escondido which is closest to you...
     
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