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Anarchy = the burning anger within me... CHAOS AND DISORDER ftw

Discussion in 'New members introductions' started by NYPigsDonuts, Mar 2, 2011.

  1. sick_nick

    sick_nick Active Member Forum Member


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    Some people here...............



    Anyways thanks for joining us :) Glad to see you like old school hip hop, I do as well. what some of your favorite hip hop groups?

    Hope you stick around there is some very nice,intelligent, wonderful people here who you will get along with.
     
  2. punkmar77

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    What about the people on here? See at the top where it says Anti-fascist, that's not a decoration.
     
  3. NYPigsDonuts

    NYPigsDonuts Member Forum Member


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    I don't think anyone on this thread is not anti-fascist... you do have your point... why even use imagery associated with nazis at all? i just like what the symbol stands for its not big deal... warzone, IRON CROSS, agnostic front all used it... nyhc used it... and i liked what it stood for... that is all...
     
  4. punkmar77

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    Well to me it's a straight insult to have an anarchist symbol combined with a fascist symbol......whack.
     
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    AKA Nazi Code

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  6. Bakica

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    :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
    :lmao:
     
  7. DirtyRottenThrashPunk

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    Agreed. And NYHC bands using the Iron Cross doesn't make it any better for me as I think of NYHC as mostly a bunch of macho right wing assholes.
     
  8. JackNegativity

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    I still have a Sick of it All shirt somewhere with an iron cross on it. SOIA isn't macho or right wing, so go figure.
     
  9. NYPigsDonuts

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    yeah man you're sooo anarcho bro... i agree man yeah,anyone with ANY conservative views is a fucking poser... total anarchy bro...

    and fuck, if you guys are gunna get your panties in such a bunch over the iron cross.. ill fucking change it...
     
  10. NYPigsDonuts

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    Nothing like a good ol' a//political symbol... a white flag from me in the argument over the 'iron cross'... you guys do have your point and i accept it...
     
  11. DirtyRottenThrashPunk

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    Why would I call NYHC bands posers when they're on a completely different scene then the one I identify with? And I find right wing views abhorrent, the only decent idea in any right wing ideaology I know of is the libertarian idea about personal freedom, and that same idea is present in so many left wing ideaologies without the capitalist bullshit accompanying it. So I don't take kindly to bands with right wing ideas.
     
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    And now you're being sexist? C'mon now. If you're not down for PC, and want to use Fascist imagery, and sexist insults, this may not be the place for you.
     
  13. JackNegativity

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    Panties aren't strictly for women. THAT would be sexist ;)
     
  14. NYPigsDonuts

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    oh i think i misunderstood... i was just trying to get a rise out of you... i obviously failed to do... i was being semi-serious... and i agree i dont like right wing ideas at all... trust me... its just i like the music and i was offended when you called nyhc a bunch of macho assholes... yeah it may be true to a degree... but i still love the music and they do have some good simple themes for song lyrics... such as warzones brotherhood sisterhood... trying to get more females involved in the scene... they do have gay bashing songs which are fucking stupid...

    and to jesuscrust... im just here to learn and talk to people with similar ideas... MAYBE i dont belong here... i dont know yet... im not exactly all about PC... but i have always had far left of the spectrum views and punk rock is my favorite form of music...
     
  15. ungovernable

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    Oh so because NYHC bands use iron cross it's right to use it ? Why not wear swastika because sex pistols and exploited does ?
    No iron cross here. Period.
     
  16. NYPigsDonuts

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    Stupid point... the iron cross was used as a symbol of strength and used as a serious symbol of what they represented... the swastika was used as shock and offensive PURPOSELY and not used seriously, as they weren't nazis...

    Your comparison sucks... maybe this place isnt for me...
     
  17. punkmar77

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    You come on to an anarchist site and...

    A. talk about the iron cross standing for strength
    B. talk about Otep sucking cock..(they are horrible but your choice of words are just as bad)
    C. tell people not to get their panties in a bunch

    :lmao: .....your doing great kid

    I wouldn't say you should leave though, I think you should maybe stop posting for a minute and just try to learn something. You being sarcastic and shit-talking isn't going to make you any friends....take a breath, think a little bit and start over.
     
  18. ungovernable

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    Hahahaha and saying the iron cross is a symbol of strength so it's cool to use it isn't a stupid point ? :lmao:

    If you want a symbol of strength there are thousands of others, take for example the skinhead scene who like the laurels. It is a symbol of strength coming from romanians but at least it's not some nazi bullshit

    So what ? It's only bad when used seriously ?

    It's funny because in your previous phrase you just said that the iron cross is used as a symbol of strength, in other words it's used seriously.

    What is stupid and what sucks is your shitty arguments and your dumb excuses "others are doing it so i can also do it"

    Maybe.

    If you feel like you shouldn't stay here because we are intolerant anarchists who doesn't like fascist/nazi symbols, then you know where the exit is.
     
  19. Polden

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    I think the O.P has great energy, but maybe needs to take a step back and learn a bit so you can apply the energy in a more 'anarcho friendly' (for lack of a better phrase) way.

    I understand your points on the iron cross being used as a symbol of strength, however it (like the swastika) has been tainted by the Nazi's, and simply using either for shock value is pretty stupid considering we would like to spread anarchist ideals rather than falsely promote Nazism or fascism.
     
  20. NYPigsDonuts

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    Alright i'll give it one more shot... When butcher first notified me that it would be associated with fascism... I said... if it will be a problem i'll take it off no problem... he said he prefer'd that i didn't use it and thought it wouldn't be a problem... if someone just said something along the lines 'take it off im sure it will be a problem with some of the members' ...but no one said that... i got replys where people didnt like it... and then i THOUGHT my point got across of WHY i was using it... i wasn't trying to justify it and saying oh Nyhc uses it so i can use it... no.. i was saying why i was using it... and the panties comment... i was in NO WAY trying to be sexist... and accusing me of being sexist is not fair... i wasn't trying to put women down... i was actually looking for what i said that could be sexist... until i saw "sexist insult" and i released what jesuscrust meant... now i understand why that comment is considered sexist... sort of like 'you punch like a girl' kind of thing, right?

    and ungovernable... you misinterpreted my point totally wrong... my point was not "the iron cross is a symbol of strength so its cool to use it?" when did i say that? and no i didnt say using a swastika for shock value is alright either... my point was comparing nyhc's use of the iron cross to the use of swastikas by sex pistols and exploited is totally different things... and i still think it is... but i took it off... i understand why you guys didnt like it and i took it off... the panties in a bunch comment was just out of calling nyhc macho assholes... it took that as an insult so i insulted back...

    and punkmar77 come on... i think otep sucks cock... i have no idea whats wrong with that except its vulgar... if you would like to enlighten me to whats wrong with that... go ahead... as i said i was here to learn...

    thats all i got... im not sorry for anything... but i do think you guys misunderstood me... and i misunderstood you guys...