LA protest & vigil to stop the wars.

Good post! Would attend if i lived there... but FUCK the troops, they can stay there to suffer.

 

i'm there

 

nah, fuck the assholes that got them recruited and the fucking news who tells them to fear al-qaeda and the elitists sitting in their multi million dollar homes making more and more profit off them.

 

This. You can't use media/society as an excuse because it would be excusing the stupidity of the masses and that's just not gonna fly. Who cares if they die. They get recognized as a "hero" and we have one less bloodthirsty mindless idiot to deal with. Everyone wins

 

Recently we got in contact with a handful of american deserters - most of them live undercover in the netherlands after beeing wounded in the middle east and shipped to germoney for medical treatment, then deserting. Some of them already engage in anti-war actions, which isn't that safe for them - germoney will follow the extradition agreements with the u.s. if they are arrested within it's borders - but these guys have something to say and bravely do it.
Canada is brimming with deserters from the us-military too and there is already a movement working on some asyl-agreement to prevent their extradition - stupidity of the masses?
I think we can blame the media for brainwashing and society for depriving perspectives to the poor - and I guess no 17-year old recruit ever believed that it could get "hot" for him, most of them just want to do a "job" - because there are no alternatives for them. (Yes, I know there are always alternatives, but not everyone is an anarchist genius with a high perception what's going on and what to do about it.)
They make a horrible mistake when they sign up, they pay for it and make others pay for it too - not only their victims in the warzones, but their own people at home too, not to mention the international tensions in non-war regions ect.
I don't give a shit about a "universal soldier", but I rather wish them deserting and thus weakening the killing machine than to die a useless death only to become the hero-cliche for the next generation of brainwashed fools to join up. For me it's just too easy to condemn them in general, they are the pawns in the game, but the players are

 

nah, fuck the asshole troop that does what he told and kills an innocent person for simply trying to protect there family.

Might go, but need to look into it a little more, Cause I got a email from that site saying something about a protest to support the troops and bring them home.

 

hey everyone, if you are goimng to discuss the troops, do it here..viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2530&p=25873&hilit=fort+hood#p25873 already a lengthy thread on fucking the troops.

 

bit of inspiration for future protests and - offtopix - my personal comment to "fuck the troops":

Sir! No Sir!
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Sir! No Sir! is a 2005 Displaced Films and BBC documentary film about the anti-war movement within the ranks of the United States Military during the Vietnam War.[1]

It is subtitled "the suppressed story of the GI movement to end the war in Vietnam." It was completed in 2005 and won the audience award at the Los Angeles Film Festival and the Golden Starfish Award for best documentary in 2005. The film is also a part of the Iraq Media Action Project film collection.

The film was produced, directed, and written by David Zeiger. It consists in part of interviews with Vietnam veterans explaining the reasons they protested the war or even defected.

The film tells the story of how, from the very start of the war, such as with the Green Berets, there was resentment within the ranks over the difference between the conflict in Vietnam and (as Jane Fonda and others state in the film) the "good wars" that their fathers had fought. In the beginning some servicemen simply left the military as individuals; according to Pentagon figures, between 1966 and 1971 there were over 500,000 incidents of desertion in the U.S. military.[2] Over time, however, it became apparent that so many were opposed to the war that they could speak of a movement. Howard Levy noticed this when he stopped training soldiers and got a lot of support from fellow soldiers. Protest newspapers started to be printed. This resulted in a severe crackdown by the Army, sending people to prison for years. The organiser of one protest newspaper was sent to prison for ten years for the alleged possession of marijuana.

Another cause for discontent was that a large number of the soldiers sent to the front were black and at the time a black movement was rising. One notion was that blacks should only fight against black oppression and that was not going on in Vietnam, so blacks should not go there. This resulted in one revolt, at the Long Binh Jail in South Vietnam in August 1968, in which one white soldier was killed.[3]

The movement eventually made the U.S. Army almost unoperable. In response to this, U.S. president Richard Nixon decided to "Vietnamise" the war, leaving the ground fighting to South Vietnamese troops and limiting U.S. involvement to bombardments. As a result, the presence of U.S. soldiers at the border was denied, leaving these soldiers to fend for themselves. When six of these soldiers were ordered to go on what was effectively a suicide mission, they refused and instead decided to send a message to the home front. Nixon responded to this by pulling that company out, but then other companies started to stop fighting as well. Some officers were killed by their own men. Because this was often done with fragmentation grenades, it became known as fragging.

When, during one offensive, more bombs were dropped on Vietnam than were used during the whole of World War II (by both sides), the Navy also started to protest. A ballot was cast on the aircraft carrier Constellation, in which the crew decided not to go to Vietnam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir!_No_Sir!