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Anarcho Punk Dead?

Discussion in 'Music, punk scene & subcultures' started by deadrock98, Dec 5, 2010.

  1. KAAOS-82

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    I love tugging at your raw nerves Ungovernable because you literally wear your heart on your shoulder. You genuinely believe that everyone should be exactly like you, and that your always right, well if you must know your not always right and if everyone within punk actually acted how you do I'd put a gun to my head. Your the one thats laying down the "law of punk" so to speak it reads like:

    Ungovernable:
    "disagree with me and I'll pay you out on the internet" Hurr Hurr

    How can music be based on purely politically associations, Rudimentary Peni is almost entirely devoid of politics and are lyrically the ramblings of a mentally ill individual. Andy Martin of the Apostles is a communist who has continually paid out on anarchism numerous times. This is all common knowledge to someone with the mental capacity to sit down and read a book on the subject. I remember months earlier your were literally eating out of Crass' asshole, then when the reality hit you that: "Hey these guys are ripping people off" you went against all your Crass worship to start hating on them, Conflict are no different, that image spoke for itself, I dont really care what they do in there spare time, if they want to sue the fuck out of each other it doesn't bother me, there has beens, I'm concentrating on the future.
     
  2. Anxiety69

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    Yeah that makes a lot of sense when the singer doesn't even write most of their lyrics...
     
  3. KAAOS-82

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    not in the first two sevens but almost all the lyrics post death church are blinkos
     
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  5. Random Person From There

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    Off of Colin Jerwood's wall on FaceBook.

     
  6. butcher

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    Coming from a self described 'existential nihilist'. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :p

    new signature! \m/ :thumbsup:
     
  7. Vegetarian Barbarian

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    First off, where do you get your logic? Are you seriously this stupid?

    Yea, because none of your wanna-be rockstar d-beat "raw-punk" bands dont sound "over-produced" (Last Discharge album?). People like you spending thousands of dollars each year on studs and hairspray, and you say behind enemy lines are jerk-offs? Let me see you play instruments like them. You have no idea about that band, just because theyre on (were, actually) PE doesnt mean shit. Their music means more to life in general than fuckin rip-off bands that say they are "UK 82".



    About the CD thing? That is the most ridiculous thing i've heard, first off dont act like you dont own any CDs or ever purchased one. Second of all, you can get any band offline, including the crap you listen to, with the quality of a record and you dont spend shit. So im pretty sure making CDs is the last thing to ruin punk. Id say attitudes like yours did more so.


    Haha, classic ignorant statement. (and its funny to see someone praise such stupidity in a signature. I guess thats what we have to deal with when dealing with feeble minded people) First off i can draw about 1,000 similarities between you and a hippie. You smell bad, spending your money on stupid shit like 10,000 studs and a leather jacket, believing in ideals that are stupid (raw punk, i mean come on), long hair (except you spend about 3 hours doing yours where as a hippie doesnt do shit).

    You have no idea what the fuck im about, so shut your mouth and go listen to your noise and think your punk because you sniff glue and shine like a disco ball with your jacket on.

    I'd take a hippie over someone like you anyday, they have more common sense about the world.
     
  8. snookams

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    when it gets old you can wish it was young
     
  9. butcher

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    :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: get out on the wrong side of bed this morning? Thanks for referring to my good self as a 'feeble minded person'.

    oh, and fuck hippies btw.
     
  10. Rabbit

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    Well, um, to start with, you clearly have no idea what "raw punk" is. Its the term for the style that started in Scandinavia with bands like Anti Cimex, Moderat Likvidation and Mob 47, based on influences from UK82 bands like GBH and Discharge. The original term is "Råpunk," and it dates from around '83/'84, so any mention of the Casualties is pretty dumb.

    So, on to the rest of your post. You say you can draw 1,000 similarities, yet you only name 4, none of which really work.
    1. "You smell bad" Yeah, how exactly would you know this? Besides, you're all crust this, grindcore that. I'd say that you probably smell just as bad as Kaaos.
    2. I'm guessing you've never studded a jacket, as 10,000 studs would be enough for several jackets. I seem to remember you posting a picture of your vest, which had a bunch of studs. So your argument is that he spends slightly more on studs than you do, and therefore he's dumb? Nice.
    3. You say his ideals are stupid, and then you say that his ideals are based on "Raw Punk," which you have already proven you know nothing about.
    4. Maybe if he had hair down to his ass this would be a semi valid point, but if you charge your hair, it really can't go past your shoulders unless you're willing to use some crazy gelatin stuff to keep it up. You also claim that he spends 3 hours doing his hair, which you base on nothing. All that you can really surmise about his hair is from his picture, which shows some roughly charged hair. Given a blow dryer and five minutes I could do the same thing.

    And again, you call his music noise, yet you listen to shit like Assück. If that's not noise, I don't know what the fuck is.

    I hope this has been educational for you.
     
  11. KAAOS-82

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    To equate recent discharge to Raw punk is a bit of a fallacy since they went through an entire period as a glam band before attempting to go back to there previous sound with a different singer. I prefer there glam stuff over there recent material with Rat on Vocals, live however I think they'd be ok.

    Hehe I use soap and sometimes a bit of hairspray to seal it. I'm also on welfare so thousands of dollars equates to how much I earn in a year if I'm lucky. On that topic, what exactly do you spend your money on? rent? food? or you still living with your parents who pay for you to live, yeah real anarchists get there mums to pay for them!

    I know a fair deal about them, I used to really dig them if you must know, I got over them, not because I cared about their political ideology, i just got sick of the sound, it was being reproduced by bands in the UK coming into the anarcho-crust genre. Incidently if you listen to the recording quality of say the Virus (US) and compare it to Behind enemy lines, you can see the similarity. compare the Virus to Aus-rotten (who were literally around at the same time) and their completely different.

    I own a few CD's but haven't bought one in years, on that note, its the recording process not the CD itself that is in contention so yet again, void argument. Vinyl actually encompasses what music is about a CD is purely based on economic convenience, it can be mass produced with lesser quality.

    May I point out that you've made a number of retarded assumptions:
    Does the leather Jacket and hippie go together? Don't think so. Also I shower twice maybe three times a week. I smell like creme brulee after I scrub my cute little body.

    I like how you made sweeping judgments on my character based on an avatar, real smart. Maybe engage in some real discourse with me rather than throw petty insults because you can't garner the intelligence to come up with anything better. If you really want to know what my political beliefs are, maybe you should read some Leprosy lyrics, until then as Chaotic Dischord put it: FUCK OFF AND DIE
     
  12. snookams

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    hell yeah my parents pay for rent because i'm a real anarchist!
     
  13. butcher

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    nah, this bit is true. Actually, its probably an underestimate.
     
  14. KAAOS-82

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    haha that happened once Butcher and that was just before GBH when it was pissing down with rain, give me a break
     
  15. butcher

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    bullshit, it was a weekly ritual to spend a few hours doing yr hair before any leprosy show. :p
     
  16. Anxiety69

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    LOl didn't you just argue that band sound quality is what makes a band punk? by that measure music 'mass produced with lesser quality' should be way more punk then vinyl.
     
  17. SurgeryXdisaster

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    Whatever the case, personal attacks can only hurt ones argument
     
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    Meanwhile while you all are arguing semantics and having off topic pissing contests, anarchists in Athens are lighting riot cops on fire.... :ecouteurs:
     
  19. KAAOS-82

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    Hang on my point is that digital recording and digital formats lessen the quality of the sound wave meaning that it takes away raw sound qualities and replaces them with zeros and ones. Punk inherently should aim for raw sound qualities because it adds to the feel of frustration and anger. Take a band like Hawkwind for example who emphasis strong musicianship and mellow guitar riffs etc. Digital recording would be perfect for the kind of sound they want because they require clean digitalised sound, hence the CD re-releases of Hawkwind are digitally remastered, its still been recorded as an analogue sound wave but has used a computer to reduces noise and other inconsistencies. Disclose as the polar opposite don't want that clean digitalised sound, they want as much background noise of a raw sound signal as they can get to add to the nature of there music. To answer your question Anxiety, I believe I said raw and dirty sound quality, not bad sound quality.

    Back to the point at hand, What made the anarcho bands of the 80's sound so good was due in part to recording on vinyl and recording direct to cassette. This is an art form I feels been lost by a lot of the recent bands who have decided to record through a computer instead, thats my whole point.
     
  20. butcher

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    back to the point: your hair.
     
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