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british students riot.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by seitan, Nov 11, 2010.

  1. seitan

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    They said that now they understand every government is same. no shit, sharlock
     
  3. JimMD

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    I would just add that the daily mail is an extremely right wing paper. Notice the police-perspective on events, picture of a poor cop (read arbiter of justice) with a bloody nose. Awwww. And also notice the reporter's fascination with student 'girls' being involved. As though it's remarkable for someone without a penis to be angry and make a stand?! For an alternative viewpoint (or a less right-wing one) i suggest you check out:

    Indymedia - http://www.indymedia.org.uk/
    or the Guardian (mainstream press, but at least a lighter shade of shit than the Daily Mail) - http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/nov/10/student-protests-conservative-party-hq-occupation

    And anyone living in the UK or Ireland, please note the calls for a concerted day of action on the 24th November. The Con-Dem cuts are not financial necessity, they are a political attack on the working class, in recent cases particularly students and the unemployed.
     
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    Fucking awesome stuff!!!

    [video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmudJafnQh0&feature=player_embedded#![/video]
     
  5. punkmar77

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    So lets have a count shall we, Greece, Chile, Spain, Germany, France, and now England have all had fairly large austerity measures inspired riots this year with a strong anarchist presence. And I have a feeling that it's only the beginning......
     
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    It would be interesting to hear off someone who was actually there, to see who was doing the rioting i.e. if it were actually anarchists. While i completely agree with the sentiment of the students (education is a right to everyone), anarchists going down under the banner of university fees then smashing a few windows whilst chanting tory scum is hardly accomplishing anything accept reinforcing the stereotype that ancarchism is chaos and mindless violence. Which the bias media over here lap up
     
  7. punkmar77

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    Well who is to say if it even was the anarchists smashing windows etc., I just inferred that there has been a strong anarchist based uprising worldwide these last two years. I agree that smashed windows and a few chants and small bonfires do not a revolution make.
     
  8. butcher

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    From the reports I have read it appears the rioting was done by both student anarchists/radicals (remember that anarchists can be students too!)and general students present at the time. Inre: chaos and mindless violence, considering it appears most students present were sympathetic to those rioting and occupying the premises, I take that as a much better indication of support and the legitimacy of tactics employed than corporate media spin.

    This may interest you
     
  9. butcher

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    Moreover, for those looking for moar sauce with that, lotsa links here & here
     
  10. vAsSiLy77

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    I am quite impressed, brilliant idea to take the battle to the source of the trouble, so I don't mind broken windows or spraypainted walls - ok, the daily mail does, but what has one to expect from them?
    Compared with the anti-fee-campaign on german universities a few years before (you never heard of any resistance? - well, there was none...) this might be a start for a continuous social unrest and direct action against the state. So good luck to the brits, and the french, and everybody else taking up position!
     
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    maybe it is fulfilling that stereotype, but it makes the authorities take note, makes them realise people wont always stand by and let shit happen.
     
  12. Veganarchy

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    Yeah, I agree! The medias and the government (pretty much the same often) will ALWAYS try to make us look like chaotic, violent psychoes. We've tried so many time to protest peaceful, but no matter what we do, nothing will change their image of us. If we demonstrate peacefull, they will either ignore the protests, and no one will hear about it, or the cops will try to provoke a fight, and then afterwards blame it on us. We can never win, if we play by their rules!
     
  13. vAsSiLy77

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    Right, these days I was watching quite a number of germun documentaries about the baader/meinhof group/the later raf and I'm still surprised how eagerly the germun state promoted them as "Anarchists", completely ignorant to the fact that they were marxist/leninists and always labeled themselves as such.
    The raf even rejected offers of support from anarchist groups, up to the point where they declared the germun Anarcho-hymn "keine macht für niemand" (no power for no-body) as "not usable in the armed struggle" - huh...
    It's this fucking old cliche: bomb = Anarchist = chaos = mad evil, it's dating back to the late 19th century where there was a brief period of "individual-terror" (ravachol in france for example, or the young bergman in america) - and the system just isn't smart enough to come up with something new.
    I don't think it's worth much attention, ok, broken glass won't change a thing, but at least it shows something: Their "rules" won't lead nowhere - but taking the tories hq by storm may change a lot: If they are that happy with us outside the door, while we are fooling around for nothing, we can always visit them inside...
     
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    This from Libcom today:

     
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  16. Struggle115

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    @ Butcher

    Where does that detalied statement come from? I mean, what kind of source..?
    - the one you've posted some posts up...
     
  17. Caps

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    This made me amused and happy when it was in the papers - nothing entertains more than seeing the tories getting fucked up. I do have some reservations about this however:

    The protests in the UK seem to lack a little solidarity. I mean that in France everone seems to be kicking off together but that doesn't seem to be the case in the UK. I'm worried a lot of the students (obviously a long way from all of them, but a notable amount) are worried about themselves and less worried about the population being shat on at large. I'd also like to see some increased workers' anger generally.

    Also, I saw a comment on indymedia arguing the ridiculousness of using actions that are used by agent provocateurs to make the movement look bad. But we're in a fucked up catch-22 - if nothing's done, the movment's ignored. If something's done, the movement's tarnished.

    I think the solution to both these problems is for the situation to get increasingly crappy. This will make people more sympathetic and therefore the tarnishing worry becomes less and it will drive more people to get involved and to get organised. I hope this is the start of the UK's misbehaving and not the climax. Time will tell.
     
  18. Struggle115

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    OR:

    The worse [/better] the situation gets, the more agitating the spin will become, but even so that doesn't matter because in the end, the state will seek to install stalemate by using fiercing force to wear out the oppressed. We need to hold firm, give them zilch and show them that we, the people, mean business.
    Also, the "observers" need to face their fear of being sighted as a troublemaker, begin to see themselves as the oppressed, and most importantly not be afraid to be recognized as one..
     
  19. ColdComfort

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    Yeah, i agree. What has happened to the British "Bulldog" Spirit?? Petrol Prices rising, Spied on round every street corner & ripped off at every opportunity financially and no one made a sound.
    i truly thought we'd lost our backbone, so it was excellent to see that. Whoever the faction causing aggro, they obviously got what they were after-publicity! \m/
    Still not sure it was the way to garner sympathy for said cause tho'. :ecouteurs:
     
  20. Inle

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    I was there. The students got excited and most probably didn't even know why or what they were doing there, but the spirit was there and it was very inspirational to see the few acting for the many.
     
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