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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ungovernable, Jul 24, 2010.

  1. vAsSiLy77

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    heyheyhey - ungorvernable, you promised something about the future of Quebec, remember?
    and the project is still running - just wait for eve and the prisoners return from France, i think it's far too advanced to be broken up now.
    and there is another project on the way, kind of food not bombs around here where we live, and for that i want some decent propaganda, and the black cat is already in the public eye, so there will be something coming out.

    Bakica - if you have a link for someone able to to large textil prints on demand - please post a link here or pm me an e-mail address - if you want. it never hurts to have sources and i will keep the necessary privacy.

    anarchistroi - you wrote much, and i still see an issue and i will say a thing or two, but there is something to celebrate:

    http://ssy.org.uk/2010/09/bnp-sdl-chase ... f-glasgow/

    and i am proud to say we helped to let it happen...
     
  2. ungovernable

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    i can't do the revolution without my flag ;) hahahaha


    AnarchistRoyG, i have lot of things to answer to your last post but i don't have the time right now....
     
  3. AnarchistRoyG

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    Here is another "Durruti Hat", just to show what it looks like, necessarily to buy:

    http://www.todocoleccion.net/gorro-miliciano-cnt-guerra-civil~x20927345

    ...it's more expensive than this other one I pointed to:

    http://www.todocoleccion.net/gorrillo-miliciano-cnt-fai-guerra-civil-repro~x12920245

    Pictures:
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    And I'm glad to see that news, that's pretty good (about those fascists being opposed) ... I actually looked around for websites that specifically sold fascist gear in a sympathetic way, and I found some pretty creepy stuff. 3 Sites in particular (germaniainternational . com; pzg . biz; aryanwear . com) It's a shame that the only oppositional stuff most people can find is mostly military memorabilia from America, Russia, & England. There should be a lot more anarchist and anti-racist punk & skinhead stuff of high quality.
     
  4. vAsSiLy77

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    yeah, the scottish gave a fine example, i would have preferred to post a more suitable link, but our friends over there are a small group, low on funds and not even net-connected - so it had to be the socialist youth...

    i did some googling too, looked through the heap of notes left for me, yes, there are more creepy things to find than it's good to the health - and i have to admit that i was wrong with some aspects of my posts, but my general point of view hasn't changed, i still see an issue and i feel confirmed by the findings.

    anarchistroi, i still don't want to start a witchhunt, i never wrote that you are supporting right wing weirdos by intent and i won't burn you at the stake for lacking knowledge, being ignorant or unable to relate on a personal /more than just rational level to the aspects or facts of history, that aren't written down in the established/the systems sciences or the products of "osprey publishing" and the like of it.

    "fuck you" is an insult and it's meant to be, i use it face to face when i'm confronted with someone still limited down by believing in gender stereotypes. but if you read the fuckyou-sentence of my post again - i didn't address you directly, i wrote of people who... i have no proof that you took my gender special, but the way you responded with the mention that "you are sensitive too" smelled like this - so i shot in your direction - but not directly at you. feel insulted if you need to or if you deserve it because i was right - if i was wrong:
    I am sorry, honest.

    i was not sure about your talk of pc, control, dogmatism ect. and the statement that "people should be allowed to see what there is to see" - so i took aimed at the people on a-p.net - and i want to ask you:
    i was wrong?
    i found the same knockout phrases on traders websites defending the business with nazi-memorabilia or on sites giving reports about the conflicts between the buisness and people/organisations struggling to end it.
    the trade with nazi-memorabilia is illegal in germany, austria, france and i am waiting for the response of people i asked about the situation in east- and north-europe and italy.
    the online markets were under heavy fire, yahoo was forced to close down the trade and the british and irish are heavily critisized that the trade is still legal, only the most important/famous auctioneers refuse to sell stuff like strands of hitlers hair, parts of his bones, or goerings ashtray or eva brauns nightwear...
    have you referred to this situation concerning the market?

    (too bad that our rebellious youth has risen from bed in full number - i am alone with them right now, so I'll continue later - i guess that happens if your father is giving prison squatting a try...)
     
  5. vAsSiLy77

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    part two:
    i have noticed that the majority of organisations fighting against the nazi-memorabilia-trade is "jewish" and that the holocaust is the most prominent argument against the trade, up to an extent, where even liberal german sites give statements like: "you can't fart in europe without tel aviv giving a comment..."
    i don't call this anti-semitic, but it's a new "jewish" sterotype that shows that something has gone very wrong in the aftermath of the holocaust and the world war II, and the question why is very interesting, but a completely and near endless other story.
    more than two millions died in the Spanish Revolution, more than 50 millions died in the second world war.
    on the side of the spanish fascists the responibity of the german nazis for these deaths is important for the way the revolution was defeated and i guess there would be no discussion about the nazis starting the world war and turning it into a "war of extinction", nearly unique in human history. these are the historical facts.

    my opinion as an anarchist - that includes that i am atheist and concerning the situation in the near east, that i am anti-zionist as an aspect of anti-imperialism:
    i don't feel good about the imbalance/one-sidedness of the anti-nazi-memorabilia-trade-opposition. not only the jews have reason to complain about the trade with leftovers of their former oppressors, massmurderers and enemies and to demand respect for the millions of dead and their descendants.
    sadly the other groups that suffered under the nazis remain mostly silent, the reasons for this should be discussed but i think not here and now.
    that only the jews raise their voice against the trade doesn't mean that they are wrong with doing so, or that they try to control reality by using pc, a decadent morality ect. - their claim/demand for respect is right, because of the holocaust and the personal consequences of it for so many people.
    i mentioned my family-heritage in one of the previous posts - i could join the jewish organisations and support them - but i will not, because i am an anarchist and besides this i don't want to suffer being condemned to play the victims role for my whole life.
    i didn't support the trade-opposition in the past and it's very likely that i won't do it in the future - there is no organisation i would like to join because of my anarchist attitude.
    but again: that doesn't mean that their claim is wrong and maybe i am wrong with my way to deal with the issue, maybe i should start my personal one-anarchist-only-crusade and raise a voice most likely to end up in the spam-filters on traders websites.

    besides everything else i just asked you a question - buy from this site?
    i guess i never thought you (anarchistroi) are interested in the nazi-stuff or promote it - i just wanted to make you notice the fascist stuff on the very same page of the gorillo miliciano cap.
    for me it's a bit like a slap in the face: a symbol of the victims of fascism and the defeated hopes of anarchism offered for a price on the same page where their killers and repressors stuff is offered - for a price.
    i am no member of the CNT/FAI/AIT, i haven't proved my worth to wear their colours by fighting in the armed struggle like they did risking their life in Barcelona, Aragon, Madrid and wherever else.
    they gave an example worth to follow, they deserve respect for what they have done and the memory of the people and their deeds deserves protection from being marginalisized down to end up as a trade good offered for a price to collectors without any relation to the background of the cap.

    (another break necessary - so it's to be continued...)
     
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    It's OK. And no, the "I am sensitive too" was thrown in there because I have complained about depictions of the swastika and the use of the n-word to other people in the recent past and I wanted to say that I was sensitive too in that respect.

    The problem with the Spanish Civil War is that it's pretty much impossible to buy stuff from one side from people unless you're willing to accept that they generally are selling stuff from both sides. I noticed this early on and it made me uncomfortable, and I seem to remember someone else noticing it too.

    As for the oppositional stuff, it is true that the greatest and most effective opposition comes from Jewish groups. But that's just because they are organized. Other groups (gays, punks, skinheads, blacks, women, atheists, etc.) tend to form temporary resistance organizations that come and go depending on the sense of the closeness of danger.


    I found an actual CNT site that is selling some gear:

    bizkaia.cnt.es/entry/126
    www.ddtgatazka.com/sa/html/idiomas/spa/configu/ddt/ddt_gbd__bol_pub__spb.html

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  7. vAsSiLy77

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    so only short because i am already late for work:

    i am quite glad to hear about your taking position for more consciousness concerning paying the necessary respect - we don't need pc if we manage to stay clear from racism and fascism.

    and this first link is quite a found, too bad that my spanish is that worse, but it looks very promising with lots of documentary media... maybe i will ask a spanish neighbor to search through the site with me.

    again, sorry for my warning shot and thanks for the best link on this topic!
     
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    Great find Roy, I am on 2 dozen different CNT federations lists, but not this one. Now anyone's money, that buys, will be going to support the CNT directly, good recovery.
     
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    GENERAL STRIKE!!! SEPTEMBER 29th, In solidarity with our Spanish Anarcho-syndicalist Brothers and Sisters!

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    do something, anything, to show support....
     
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    already in the making: tomorrow we will get the poster out in most of the shops and markets of the area, half-sized, but with a german information about the situation and the motives for the strike. we planned the same for the international airport (tourist buisness is running wild with warnings) but it's not allowed - so we will distribute flyers every afternoon.
    on the very day we will have a demonstration on the most prominent plaza of the quarter, tables with books and information, free spanish meals from 10 pm untill 18 pm, some people will explain the motives for their solidarity, most of them aren't anarchists, but i was quite surprised how much response we got with the "small" plan just to distribute flyers.
    at the evening we will show "land and freedom" and a german tv-documentary about the decline of workers rights in europe in the last ten years. too bad that we found nothing more reasonable for the event.
    but there is one group writing a flyer for the support of the indigenous Triqui - and they research and write everything on their own, beside "our" statements we only give technical support when necessary, and really: the commitment of the "ordinary" people here is amazing.

    good luck to everybody else doing something!
     
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    and a second one on our own behalf:

    EVE, GOBBLE AND VASSIL - what is going on?

    i had to call angela for some legal questions about the actions in the next days and she told me that she tried to get information about the date for the release on friday. the cops told her that there is no information avaliable and after that she contacted a attorney bureau and they told her that nobody knows about your whereabouts.

    Angela gave me a cellphone with a "r-tarif" - so the call is FREE for the caller even from public telephones.

    Eve - Angela put the number on her mailbox - you can retrieve it if you add a number six times your birthdate to her normal number - just call me and tell me if you have information - this is NO PLEASE - just do it!

    i have send the number with a pm on gobbles and vassils accounts - use it and tell me what happened.
     
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    ... and it's already translated into german and part of a three-side-flyer with an really good diego rivera painting on the front - i was reading your translation yesterday, copied it and gave to a 14-year old guy who was adopted as a baby by a german family, he always asks for information about their situation.

    he came up with the idea and now he's the motor of the group writing for the triqui, he regards them as "his" people.

    he also plans to learn spanish, study something useful here and go back to mexico to work for the people, i guess this makes it a bit easier for him to stay here until he comes up on age. he often gets in trouble for blaming his step parents for stealing him away, so vassil became something like an older brother to him, teaching him paramedics and gardening/woodworking skills and discussing development aid all the time.

    and our girls love him playing and singing "la adelita" for them (again, and again and again....)
    i think he's is really promising for his young age and so your efford is falling on a more than waiting soil...
     
  14. vAsSiLy77

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    my heart is broken because my favorite audience has found another hero all the while I am stranded on this weird and unforgiving coast...
    nah, serious:

    the actual part:
    first rule: don't worry, second: don't worry, third: something about salami and DON'T WORRY!!!!
    we are ok, all in one piece, and breathing fresh air again, they threw us out yesterday morning.
    no charges left, justice is served completely - at least from their side of the gun, too bad that our end is not the buisness one...
    I guess it will take some time to make the way home, no need to worry and again:
    no need to worry! there are just some problems...

    the situation:
    we weren't able to get the car back - they pretend not to know where it's kept and they don't seem to be that eager to find out.
    we are very low on money, nicotine, sleep and luck, so we can't afford to wait, and there might be a fee to pay if they find it - again: we can't afford it.
    and again again, we are okay, bearded and far from home, too bad that my id, money and stuff is still IN the car - so getting around is a bit risky - I wouldn't be surprised if the whole comedy is starting again if I am checked on the street. (don't laugh, thats how the whole thing started - standing without an id beside my very own car holding my very own backpack with my id).

    I'm writing on this usb-mobile, but the hsdpa-transfer is very low and it takes some time to log in an page - I could not open the userinterface (timeouts, displayerrors etc.) so we couldn't get the telephon number...
    the three-side was a smart one, but we couldn't reach that too, timeout again...

    the uncomfortable part:
    Vas still got his id, he looks less strange than me with this beard (and wearing a basque-cap we won with cardplaying I think he looks like the rebirth of this don't-cry-for-us-argentina-guy, Sid Guevara, Vicious Che Rotten Lydon?)
    and right now he's doing the foraging, getting the plan organized - on food to save resources, he'll be back in the evening.

    the romantic part:
    Eve left around ten days ago, she was visiting us twice and there is a fan club of her in our former residence- but she was refused to visit at the third time, we still don't know why.
    we have information that she met a person very special to her and that her eyes started to sparkle and gleam and everything and she left with this person and a few others.
    after there was nothing left for her to do, she did the right thing, she is safe and with good company, she is in love (hmmmm...) - everything is fine and there is nothing to worry about her too.

    the bad part:
    she left some money with a note for us, but everything vanished in the aftermath of the ship's sinking - it was a depressing mess when we arrived - and it got even more worse in the meantime.

    the bad and complicated part:
    coming back here we found another very special person left back in the rubble.
    I guess she's the person you really hate more than you hate shooting warnings, and I guess you know who it is and I think you should continue breathing...
    she is in a very bad shape, Vas thinks that she has pneumonia, she has infected wound at her legs and some days ago the worst thing imaginable happened to her. I guess she is on pills too, still or again...
    she asked us to take her with us, and maybe she really could not leave on her own.
    we decided to get her out of this mess, and leave her with people who know her too and care enough for her to get her back to her feet.
    Vas already got a positive reply on her behalf, it's the best place for her to recover and because they know about her, they will make sure that she will not be able to become a complication for us.
    but we will have to make detours and this may take a day or two more. (just keep on breathing...)

    the part on MY behalf:
    angela has told you about my very own family crisis? I guess I can't go home, at least not in the next days.
    I'm pissed too, and I already ripped this joint, I am really pissed.
    it would be nice if I could find asyl at your place and Vassil already agreed - so I have to ask you too.
    there may be some alternatives, but I would like to stay in town and with Vassil and you and my favorite former fans and and and... and I will try everything to find a new place for me as soon as possible.

    yes/no?

    again, don't worry, it's only a matter of time and a bit more luck than we had since this mess began,
    we are okay and on the way home, and I am sure Eve is happy and having fun and we will her from her soon.

    we have no electricity here and the akku is going down - if you write a word or two?
     
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    ok, i am still short on breath and i have really to think about what to say - at least the big rock is rolling off from me, but i am pissed, w. and wobble are here and they are pissed too because of this leech-thing and the stupid varlets falling for the damsel in distress once more.
    take her to a hospital and leave her there, she won't die because she's already braindead and whatever - wobble recommends a sharpened stake or exposure to sunlight:

    the vote stands 3 : ? against bringing her here and her addiction is an absolute NO - just in case you plan to do that or she will make you plan...
    WE don't want her anywhere near enough to cause trouble again - and this is really serious mr. gallows humor.

    if vassil has his stuff back he should look for angelas number and call her - she will tell him how to contact french lawyers who will help with money, id and whatever the cops are up to. too easy?

    i can rent a car and come to pick you up, van & helsing have to work but the big girls can care for the young ones, i think that would be the fastest way to get you out, even if you insist on giving her the next opportunity to play her game.
    (and i had to delete that i just can't get it how stupid you are...)

    Eve is ok, she called me yesterday evening but we did not know about the stolen note and money.
    yes, you are right, it was the best thing to leave. i am glad for her too.

    on your behalf:
    your ex brought most of your personal stuff, we had a talk with her and afterwards stored everything in the basement.
    no comment, i feel sorry for you and it's a group decision that we would have offered you to move in anyway - so it's a collective and serious YES.
    the big girls will share a room and you can get the other as long as you need it. but i start to think that we will regret it some day, and wobble suggests the basement for you too.

    (not serious: considering the new looks of mr. rotten guevara i am thinking about asking for asyl in florida, it's less overcrowded and i will find at least a few exiled cuban anarchists to share my point of view on los barbudos...)

    just stay out of trouble and think about starting the next menace.

    Vassil?I
     
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    (And i see you are still "on" - waiting for something?)

    So it's finally me, still thinking hard how to start after that florida plan of yours and this wicked critics about my revolutionary use of diguise:

    Q: How to hide a punk in distress in a big city?
    A: dress him up like a poser...

    So everybody smiled at me and our new headwear today, nobody changed to the other side of the street... And I was really lucky finding a remedy for all your pains and the most important problem in the world - only just in case you are still breathing:

    your favorite vampire is already in a hospital - I was right about the pneumonia, gobble just forgot to mention my doubts about her fitness to make the improvised traveling, she had festered wounds, fever, did not remember when she ate last or what day it is, and she has been raped very recently - so we just had to do something.
    You are right about her, there is no doubt, but if you would have seen her in this state of hers...
    We never planned to take her back with us - only to get her out of this.
    I wasn't sure if they would take her in because she's without insurance etc. - so I asked at a homeless-ambulance for information - and met one of the good christians, a german ZDL, call it a direct hit.
    And he liked rotten guevara that much, that he called for a doctor and translated until the doctor decided to take a look at her... now she's safe and sound - no complication for us anymore - isn't that nice?

    After she was taken away they started discussing our problem, thats the remedy for you:
    We will leave here very soon, on more than comfortable wings and our problems are no problems at all...
    And maybe I will have to give out food and not bombs for the rest of my life to repay for this.

    I know you are waiting, and I would have started this post with a heartbreaking report about how much I missed you and my favourite daughters all the time, nearly dying of grief and longing.
    But you plan to flee to florida, meet other anarchists and expose my favorite innocent youths to fastfoods, disneys and evil fat bushbrothers? Not to mention TV-preachers all-around-the-clock and the communist dictatorship 80 miles away... wickedness is not enough:
    Barcelona here I come!

    By the way:
    We did try to give word, but this rip-off mobil thing refused to work and we had to spend hours to get it working, yahoo is still out of range, and I guess AP.net love me more than you do, butstill it takes more than half an hour to load up the site, log in and page only to find you calling us stupid.

    I may look stupid as the pop icon alberto corda created, but:
    I tried the number you PMed on my account and because of your wickednessI don't mention that I just wanted to hear your voice - but you made a typing mistake and I was startling a honest citizen three times out of his well earned TV-sofa-evening. (and now I stop this dissing and start saying what I really want to say:)

    Just stay where you are, wait a little longer and tell my girls I'm on the way, forget about florida and start thinking about glowing on my return like your sister is about another return - ok, at least smile for me?
    At least a bit?
    And I will get a shaving and the girls can have the cap for all I care...

    And before the akku runs out:
    Gobble says: Thanx! and I too, and I will write you a PM myself, without any typos but with lotz of <3
     
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    Wobble came down to tell me that you are "on", Eve called half a minute later, waking up the girls with the ringing phone and even W. and the big girls came out of their caves to see whats going on.
    after reading the screen, their laughter shook up the fundaments all around - the everpresent tension of the last weeks went away and now they popp one of those catalan red wine bottles meant for the 29. to celebrate.
    thanks for telling us, we were really waiting for you.

    Now the girls are cuddling on the non-tv-sofa, watching everything with a strange look in their eyes and i bet, we would have three red flashes bolting towards the door at the slightest noise on the stairs.

    i think there is some strange kind of glow playing around your favorite daughters too right now and if Eve is telling me her trick - yes, i will smile and i will show you what it means to s h i n e - count on it.
    AP-net may love you and che christ will - because it's his job - but they are nothing compared with us.

    Wobble can't keep his mouth shut, he asks for a photo - before - the shaving and makes jokes about the picture made by Senor Korda (with a K) in the churches around La Higuera and the mass they hold there at each 9. october - after they sold the original to the government and buried his dead body without head and hands unter the airfield. (is this really true?)

    very interesting story - but somehow it's hard not to cry while they are laughing.
    just come back.

    Eve asked if she should come back to give you the telephon number or whatever you need, and i still think i should get a car and pick you up?
    money is not a problem, your favorite boss transfered your wage without over-time and expenses, your mom left some money for winterboots the girls already have - shouldn't i get a car? i want to.

    how long will it take?

    ok, i have to leave now, your favorite daughters need to sleep and i guess i will have to take them in our room to make them calm down, i am tired too now. i hope you can sleep this night.

    and what about you waking me up in the morning?

    (Wobble is such a .... we should keep him in the basement)
     
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    I feel like a voyeur watching my favorite revolutionary soap opera play out on our little forum... So glad all is well Vassily, and you and your comrade are free and your family and friends eagerly await your return. Prost! :beer:
     
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    Can we please get back to the original topic, about CNT and AIT flags? I don't see why this other stuff cant be discussed in another thread...

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    that's the last one off-topic, and i guess I'll have to bleed for it:

    nah, this isn't buvwerly thrills something, this is real-life-SSarkozy's Bagnolet 2010 or:
    "non-american/french werewoofs in paris".
    (subtitle: about stepping in a big sticky dog-leftover and the hordes of black armored alien-cops from the most outer space.)

    and it is about people caring for each other and needing each other after seven weeks of:
    "ha terrorist boches, now we got you and someday we might even figure out what to do with you... and by the way we lost your car, but now you better leave as long as you can".

    thanks punkmar for the wishing-wells, I've seen your offering of support elsewhere: so thanks for that too.
    there was no other way to communicate and this shitty mobile thing is already dying a hero's death, we would have prefered to use at least pm's, but...
    so if you feel bad about watching them post-teenagers in love, just turn a blind eye on them and I'll spare you the report of reunitings after times of pressure and tension - yes, I will turn completly blind in that very moment, but they just deserve it.
    and after them coming back to everydays necessity there will be flags, a revolution and drinks for free - Salut!

    anarchistroi - against feeling bad for buying stuff offered next to screwdriver or "wafen-XX"-shit I strongly recommend reading Abel Paz or Heleno Sano - and their books are illustrated too.
    it might also help against sitting on the fence and painting up little figures of the people who fought the fascists - and doing so - just lacked the time to contemplate about the "boredom" of franco insignia.
    wanna see nutzi-replica in action? - just come over to home-sweet-home germoney and watch them haunting the forests, drilling and marching, re-enacting executions... dressed up historically exact to the last nsdap-pin avaliable.
    or ask a certain person how it is to be attacked by a stupid weirdo flashing an accurate replica of a hj-dagger 1937?

    and before my favorite Vassil is back and starts crucifying me for continuing off-topic and being wicked and lacking discipline and scaring off ordinary people (thats MY favorite, roi):

    Eve - stay where you are - we are off in an instant and you will see only a fading dust cloud...so have fun!

    Lil - stay where you are, Vassil was asking for my cars fate again but instead got some news of angelas "costs" (surprise sur-price...). giving radicals support has a price?
    no, we don't wait for the car, but money might become a problem, we will see and should be prepared "if".
    so renting a car will cost faaar to much, 1500 km and extra insurance for going out of state?
    and besides: this not-too-recent and less romantic relation you had with those aliens from outer space might make it too unsafe for you to enter the drama. again: we are on the way!

    please don't reply, except for on-topic posts - don't worry if we keep silent - it's just the dying akku!
    come on, only a little time more and the end is historically inevitable:
    sluts of the world unite!
     
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