SxE, Vegetarianism, Veganism

I dont trust them, because they cant trust themselves/handle themselves like adults.
Dont regiment your entire life on some retarded ideal that someone(ian mackaye, who at one point was a raging cokehead) intilled ONLY so they could have all ages shows.

Being edge, is being a coward.
Maybe people dont have the same sense of mental security I do, but I can handle myself just fine.

 

I really don't get how you think Not Doing drugs is weak but doing drugs is'nt ....

 

Wow, I'm used to being called a coward for being a pacifist but not for being straight edge. And here was me thinking an adult was somebody who acted in a responsible manner and didn't deliberately put themselves and others at risk for the sake of 'having a good time'.

By the way, me not drinking or doing drugs has nothing to do with Ian MacKaye.

 

well, he hasn't said being clean is being cowardly, but being sXe is... i disagree completely, but i think i understand what he is saying. Personally though I thin kall anarchists should be sober minded, but that is a topic for another thread...

 

whats the difference between being sXe and being Clean? its basically the same thing except on has a cool name.

 

Hmm, well straight edge is more a subculture, I'd say you're usually gonna be into the music as well if you identify as edge. I don't usually, unless someone's dissing on it apparantly

 

Regarding Hitler's alleged vegetarianism:

Regarding sxe, there are reasons to be edge that don't have to do with the kind of control issues Cocytus is talking about. I also don't think there's anything wrong with being a part of a subculture as long as you're still true to yourself. I would imagine a lot of people here dress, act and socialize in a pretty subcultural manner.

 

Adolf also took regular shots of vitamines mixed into methamphetamine for the last three years of his life....being clean is a good thing, being a militant fascist SxEx er macho jock like FSU and judging everyone around you is not a good thing....

 

ok, here's my 2 cents: After 20+ years of hard drinking and any drug you can imagine, staying clean is now a matter of life and death. I still find not eating meat unnatural. If someone can do it, more power to them and I have nothing negative to say about it, but I'd rather save my fellow human than worry about the animals.

 

this is true, but also, if every one cut down on their consumption of meat/pultry (if my spelling is incorrect please excuse that) then there would be less hunger because for every pound of meat consumed is 16 pounds of grains or farm land used. if we used this land for farming more grains and other food this food could benefit those starving in asia africa and latin america. so i guess im just saying you could be helping out two things at once with out realizing it.
im not too sure what being straight edge would be benifitting... please enlighten?? i dont smoke weed or any of that but i do drink and take ritalin.

 

Drunks can't be vegan. Alcohol greatly disrupts alco-vegans organism. And meat-eaters say: this is harmful of veganism!

 

I'm vegetarian, eating an animals flesh disturbs me...but you'll never get me to stop eating cheese and drinking chocolate milk, I love that shit! And as for drugs, I certainly don't devour them like I used to, but I'll smoke dope when it's around (I'm just not spending all my cash on it now), drink when I can, smoke tobacco sometimes, and if I can get anything like acid, shrooms, or GOOD E tabs, sure, I'll buy 'em and save them for some occasion....I'm absolutely not doing pharmaceuticals (and especially not over the counter shit, but I only did that when real desperate anyways) any more, unless I get a scrip for some reason. If I break a bone, I'M GETTING FUCKING DOPED UP. Of course, anybody who's a non-militant straight edger I can be fine with. If they're in it for themselves, good for them-if they wanna beat some kids up for being different, then fuck them (though I like some Boston Crew bands)

 

First, to dispel any confusion, I have to declear I'M NOT a straight edge

Personaly I dont smock tobaco because I consider it's a drug comming from capitalism and it was created just to be consumed, befor people use to smock the pipe after dinner or smock cigar for plasure, and one day a guy decided to make a lot of money and created the cigarette, Then people began to smock every three minutes, with concéquences we all know.

I don't consume drugs just because I don't like to have the feeling of a flying banana. I don't want to private people from there individual freedomn, but I'm against hard drugs (like a lot of anarcho-punks)

I drink beer like one time per month because I never buy any alchool, oly stolen from my friends

I'm vegetarian, I eat eggs, honey and milk only comming from old good farms (I don't no for USA but in France they still existing, and cheep)

Sorry for my english if you find some abnormalities, it's because it's not my born language

 

I havent had chance to read all of this topic but the way I see it is that anarchism and veganism go hand in hand, you cant call for the liberation of people and not of animals, were the same thing. Also I have no problem with people living a sXe lifestyle but its not for me, at the important things im not intoxicated but in my personal time if I want to have a drink with mates I think why not?

 

I don't want to create a new thread but I don't want to read through 12 pages of this thread so I don't know if it's been covered or not but....Vegans:

Your reasoning for not eating meat is out of solidarity and respect for life right? That you don't feel like you should make another being suffer so you can consume it? Well I submit this to you. If all life is precious and equal, what makes an animals life more important than a plants? That they can't feel pain? How do you know that? Pain is just a mechanism built into your brain to let you know something is going wrong with your body and you should avoid it. Every living organism has this and the perception can't be much different. Some people are born without the ability to feel pain, would it be justifiable to punch that person in the face? It's easy to think of a plant as not living even though we know they are because they don't have any characteristics familiar to us, which is why we are so empathetic to our mammalian prey. So where is the moral superiority in choosing the life of one thing over another? It's the circle of life, and frankly I think it's beautiful no matter what those PETA videos tell you.

 

Slaughterhouses are in no way natural, and to consider our modern day consumption of animals "the circle of life" is quite outrageous.

Are you trying to justify this to us, or yourself?

For lack of a better, and simpler way of putting this...

"you try to hide guilty doubt from me with an appeasing smile, you never want responsibility for this murderous cruelty, the wasteful piles of blood-soaked bodies, you won't let your conscience see."

 

Can I ask you something ? Can a plant be happy ? can you hang out with plant ? can you feel same as plant ?
Plants don't feel pain. they are alive, but there is a big diffrence between animals and plants.
And also, critisizing vegans/vegeterians for not eating food is stupid, you should try something like that, and you would see that result is great. (I'm talking generally)

 

I'm Vegetarian and straight edge. I just don't even want to be known under the name straight edge, since these guys completely seperating themselves from people who drink and smoke are fucking douches. All my friends drink (no one smokes), it's just that I don't need it, and feel that only when i'm in control of myself, that I can have REAL fun. That's just a personal feeling, I know lots of people who become loads more fun when drunk, and I have great fun with them, so I don't mind.