favorite anarchistic philosopher

it's still expressing yourself

and my argument is still true: the anarchists have the right to "deface building", but not their ennemies.

It's called "à l'extrême-droite du père" a documentary by "les infiltrés"

available here:
http://forums.resistance.tk/message.php?t=8529

but no, only in french...

wtf you are going to tell me that this is sexist again ? what the hell, everything is interpreted as sexism in english ??

the exact same sentence translated in french have absolutly no sexist meaning, it just means "you don't have the courage to"

Once again you don't like your ideas to me confronted so you will just ignore me yeah i knew it...

BULLSHIT ! You called me a fascist and an authoritarian multiple times, so fuck you !

Oh ok, so calling you an asshole is different than insulting you of being a fascist, a stalinist or an authoritarian... mmmmhh okay...

lol you prove once again that you probably never took part into an anarchist organisation of any kind, because you wouldn't say there's only one of me.

all anarchists here and in france are all radically anti-fascist and they would all react the same if you start telling them they act like fascists because they dont believe in freedom of speech for fascism, racism, and nazism.

I also noticed most of the peoples who defend this point of view are american or british... looks like you all been brainwashed by the politics of USA regarding the tolerance towards nazism and you think that this is true freedom, anyway you already said that the USA is a free country, one of the best place to live! So yes, you are ignorant and brainwashed

 

wow.... you are ridiculous

in my previous posts on this topic i already said that censoring internet would be fucking stupid, EVEN FOR NAZIS SITES

and i never ever said we should censor other things than fascism and nazis. i would never support censorship of the internet that include censoring anarchist website, of course i'm against australia censorship program, that's a fucking stupid question!!

the spanish revolution never used such manners, and never censored other things than the fascists, your argument is totally off-topic

 

Yes i do.

Yes i really do some things in real life, much more than you might think. I have experience, and that's why i say NGNM85 probably never took part in a real-life anarchist organisation or any anarchist project, or else he would understand that we can't tolerate freedom of speech for the nazis. I learnt that with experiance, a couple of years ago i was almost at the same point as NGNM85 (but not as ridiculous as him) and i believed that we should tolerate freedom of speech for the nazis so peoples dont think we are contradictory. I was like him and i thought i was so cool, a superhero fighting for freedom of speech with super revolutionary ideas.... Then i realized that in pratice, it is something else completly different and that i must review my ideas to be realistic. I also learnt that it is a total contradiction with anarchist history.

So i evolved and changed my ideas.

 

So what if we decide through direct democracy to NOT allow nazi hate propaganda ? (which WILL happen because an anarchist community tolerating nazi propaganda would be fucking stupid) You will still say that we are authoritarian and fascists ?

Ahahahahahaha

ok first i'm an anarchist since 10 years so shut up i know way enough, my age doesn't matter and you are the living proof that there is no age to be stupid and ignorant

second, you should also make public apology for the misrepresentation of anarchist ideas in the last 100 years. All examples of anarchist revolutions were doing the exact same thing as me, they disagree to give freedom of speech for the nazis.

third, there are serious anarchist theoricians who have the triple of my age and who still believe we shouldnt give freedom of speech for the nazis

YOU are the one who misrepresent anarchism, i know for sure (and by experience) that the VAST MAJORITY of anarchists are strongly anti-fascist and disapprove any kind of freedom of speech for the fascists. America might be an exception, a lot of anarchists are stupid there. But just go ask on any french forum, and everyone will laught at you if you start talking about giving freedom of speech to our ennemies !!

Saying that it's not the way we conduct ourselves is a lies, i have said many times that you CANNOT FIND A SINGLE HISTORICAL EXAMPLE WHERE FREE SPEECH FOR THE NAZIS WAS TOLERATED.

You are really funny, contradictory and hypocritical jackass.

In the same phrase you call me an internet warrior and then you talk about respect.

Fuck you, because i'm talking to you on internet doesn't means i'm an internet warrior, you know NOTHING of me and if you knew me in real life you wouldn't say i'm an internet warrior, so shut the fuck up.

You talk about direct democracy and that everyone should be given the right to speak, then you say we should all ignore me. Fucking contradictory hypocrite !!! At least I let you talk and i consider your arguments.

 

I don't give a fuck of what you are saying since you can't say the same thing for NGNM85 and his friends.

I was insulted since the begginning, i was called an authoritarian, i was called a fascist, i was called a stalinist, i was called a fake anarchist, etc... So YES, i lost all respect and politeness i have for this idiot who insult me. I never insulted the first. I always do this, if you are polite with me i will be polite with you. But don't expect me to keep respecting you if you call me a fascist, an authoritarian and a stalinist, etc...

Also if you are not happy, nobody force you to stay here, thanks.

 

I lose my patience when i get insulted. It's one of my bad point.

But the argument was that you critize me because i insult, but you don't critize the others who insulted me. Why are you being so unfair ?

 

Just before you started your ranting, you had an insult right above: someone calling me a fake anarchist and an internet warrior. Stop pretending you didn't see it. On the other topic you posted into just before this one, NGNM85 is insulting another member and telling him "fuck you"

Read this whole thread, and you will see that i got insulted by many peoples a couple of time. It's normal that i lose my patience

As for the sexist insults, i don't even knew it was considered as sexism in english. And it's fucking stupid, when i say something like "you don't have the balls" that's just saying "you are not making a man of yourself". And don't tell me this last one is also sexist because you can also say "make a woman of yourself".

Anyway, in french it is definatly not considered as sexism, and even the feminist use insults like "you don't even have the balls" or "make a man of yourself".

What part of "I RESPECT THE PEOPLES WHO RESPECT ME - DON'T INSULT ME AND I WILL NOT INSULT YOU" you don't understand ??

Respect isn't only one way. If i get hit on the cheek i will not show the other cheek to get hit again.

Start by teachning lessons to peoples who started this fight, because i seriously don't care about your rantings.


Also, you only quote the part of the text that you like, eh ?

It also says:

It this point was respected we would have avoided this whole stupid debate.

 

i see no difference between political insults and traditionnal insult. To me, being called a fascist and an internet warrior is definatly an insult.

if you prefer i will insult him of being a nazi, a fascist and a stalinist if you prefer, but then you will still say i'm not being polite.

Calling me a fascist and an authoritarian is also personal and unnecessary, it is definatly not productive and objective for the debate

I didn't use those words again since i was told it was interpreted as sexism. Stop making a big drama for no reason.

You tell "make a man of yourself" to a man, and "make a woman of yourself" to a woman. No that's definatly not sexist, at least not in french. Even feminist use this sentence. It just means "get up and be strong" we could say "make a real person of yourself" and it would mean the same thing. It's definatly not sexist

I never used this word as an insult again, now we are just talking about the meaning of the word. Don't start to act like a feminist-fascist and try to censor everything, i'm just talking about the meaning of the word, not using it as an insult.

Anyway don't forget, sexism is what some peoples on this forum would call "freedom of speech"

No i didn't start the personal insults, you are lying.

I'm not acting consistently in a manner that anarchists would not, i have repeated many times that ALL ANARCHISTS OF THE HISTORY acted the SAME WAY. And in 11 pages of debates, nobody was able to prove me wrong.

So i'm acting in the same manner that all anarchists act since 100 years. NGNM85 and his supporters are the one who are not.

Yes please teach him lessons like you do for me, and argue during 5 posts to prove how he is a bad guy.

Also say the same thing to the other 3-4 peoples who also insulted me in this topic.