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Homophobia in the Punk Scene (Total Wreck)

Discussion in 'Music, punk scene & subcultures' started by Carcass, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. gilk

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    oh yeah if you support a band you automatically support all their opinions they sing about and talk about.
     
  2. punkmar77

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    Are you being dense on purpose? Of course you do, thats like saying I support Screwdriver for their beats but don't support their Racism, which is overlooking a negative trait. Maybe you like Conflict but don't support their vegan stance or pro-animal liberation propaganda and that would be entirely different than throwing support behind a thinly veiled homophobe. In the end it's entirely YOUR choice what you do we can't force anyone else to adopt our views but if we want to boycott bands and spread the word as Carcass has done, don't try jumping down our throats and labeling us as 'PC' and talk shit on this site because the (E) stands for Equality for all, including all of our homosexual brothers and sisters who deserve to be treated with respect and love.
     
  3. gilk

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    I like bad brains first album. when i listen to it am i promoting homophobia? give me a break dude...

    and i wasnt talking shit to any of the homos... i have no problem whatsoever with them so dont accuse me of having one cause i say fag.
     
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    alright first, cool it on the name calling. thats not helping anyone. and yea now i have an idea dropped in my head from thinking bout bad brains and that sort of thing.. but where the hell are you coming from telling me that im talkin shit and saying im not down for equality? i have an outlook that i stand for my beliefs, but im always open to grow and learn. yea i believe in no free speech for nazis because they promote nothing that helps mankind, but does that mean because they dont stand for equality and im unsympathetic to nazis and dont think they deserve equal rights, does that make me not believe in equality or a hypocrite? where does the line fall when you take action for your beliefs and beat on nazis just like the nazis have done to us? but hey man belittling me on the internet makes me have an opinion in my head to disreguard the actually serious opinion you have.. what i was trying to say the first time was that its hard to stand up for what you believe in without being a hypocrite. im already against prejudice, dont tell me im not.
    and btw i take back what i said about it being a free country.
     
  5. gilk

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    i believe in free speech for everyone, nazi or not... it IS hypocritical to deny someones free speech when you have yours no matter how terrible the opinion is. (even though its our opinion that its terrible ;) ) im sick of being called a sympathizer because i am not. i just believe in equality even for the ones who don't support it. let the nazis march, let them congregate and preach hate. who cares what they do? as long as they aren't harming me i really don't care what they think or say. if you dont let them do that you're no better then one who doesnt support gay marriage or marijuana legalization.
     
  6. punkmar77

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    First off Chesticles I didn't direct that comment at you I directed it at gilks response to your comment, and second gilk:

    "let the nazis march, let them congregate and preach hate. who cares what they do? as long as they aren't harming me i really don't care what they think or say."

    you do that, I will fight them with every breath in my body as I have for 30 years. If thats really how you feel why are you on an Anarchist site?

    ...Anti-fascist, Anti-capitalist, Anti-authoritarian, Anarchist and... Punk !
     
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  8. crookedteeth

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    cry about it some more, hippies
     
  9. punkmar77

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    Who left the door open and let all these trolls in the house? :lmao:
     
  10. gilk

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    i'm here for the punk mostly and to get other opinions. im beyond labeling myself something at this point besides a libertarian (which im reading up on more). and its always good to have people with conflicting opinions, even fucking stormfront has that and they're all idiots... but anyway, you can fight them but in any society attacking peaceful marchers is barbarian like. why do you think the public looks down on anarchy and thinks "chaos and no order" when they hear it? (yes i know anarchy does not mean that, i know what it means)
     
  11. Ivanovich

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    You seem to miss the point that to promote hate and prejudice *is* fucking harmful, so yeah, kick the bastards off the streets.
     
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    ...and kick the fuckers in the teeth while we are at it.
     
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    Anyone who espouses pro-wilderness views while attempting to vaguely identify themselves with every stereotype associated with an urban culture that thrives on cities and western civilization is an idiot. The devotees of this website talk as if they are the defenders of some great grand movement but know nothing about it. One of the defining factors of "punks" (and I use that term loosely because half the kids who listen to the music would call you an idiot for even calling them that) is the idea of not giving a shit. If you want to care about politics and gay rights go join PRISM or the democratic party or your middleschool's Africa aid club, but don't demean the scene as it is by claiming to be a part of it and then insulting people because they've grasped the basic notion of sarcasm.
    I live in Charlottesville. I watched total wreck play an entire set with a naked homosexual man running about and spreading his asshole without a single person in the audience becoming upset including the band who were the ones who suggested he get naked in the first place. Its a fucking joke you morons, they don't give a fuck if you're gay or not just as much as they don't give a fuck about anything else. The only reason they kept that up is because you hippie ass sniffers get up in arms when you think you're precious equality is being threatened and its funny to make you angry. I work with two gay guys and they use the word faggot more than anyone I know. Its the same thing as black people calling each other nigger. Faggot has two connotations, one is irony, a thing people as retarded as you don't understand, and the second is the fact that these days faggot is more an insult than a slur. For most people the demeaning anti-gay factor is all but gone and it's the same as calling someone an idiot. But of course you wouldn't know that because all the intelligent gay people avoid you stupid fucks like the plague. In fact, this forum is the most prejudiced of all, because you're the ones calling attention to gay people and acting like some noble knights defending the honor of the gays. If they gays have any beef, they'll let us know. It's 2010 and they're the most active political group in the country, now shut the fuck up and eat your fucking bean curd you stupid hippie faggots.
    I bet most of you haven't even spent a night in the woods.
     
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    hmm lets see evrey one get angry...but ya i agree with billy up there. i would not have used so many swear words and name calling but the general idea of what he is saying is the exact thing i been sayign since the first page of this conversation.
     
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    Your so macho and punk, why thank you for pointing all these things out....I feel much more enlightened... now kindly go fuck yourself :beer:
     
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    wow everyone, guess we are not punks because we give a shit about important issues to us. I love noobs to this site telling us what we should and shouldn't be posting here. your 2 posts makes you an expert on us, plantsfeel. Anything else you want to tell us to do while you are at it? I guess punks should just be getting drunk all the time and fucking everything in their paths up. Get a fucking clue.
     
  18. Wonder138

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    dued i totally understand what you mean every one that i know calls me pessimistic becuase i bitch at them for say racist or homophobic jokes im the only one that fucking cares and takes offense and im not even gay or bi but it still pisses me off i think ill write a song on it
     
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    and is anybody els getting tired of the arguing its makes me want to leave the site but i dont think i will but seriously the arguing and fighting is for are enemy not each other god damn will we ever be able to discus shit and not turn to arguing and screaming fuck you at each other
     
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    without arguements, there are no resolutions. again, why would u want to be on a site where everyone agrees with everything anyway? I guess we should all agree that homophobia is ok and not argue about it anymore? fuck that.
     
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