Punks and Hard Drugs

here's a seig heil in his honor.

 

Not much useful I can add that hasn't been said already, but sorry to hear that, regardless.

 

me too...

 

I've done most drugs... (not smack)
Cannabis is good, alcohol is bad... very unhealthy. I really like LSD...
The drug I particularly hate is speed, it makes people paranoid psychopaths.
The high of amphetamine is of course intense, but the down is absolutely horrible, not recommended.
But everyone's got the right to do whatever they want to with one's own life, the choice is yours.

 

Hmm... speed and MDMA actually calm me down 0.o
As does XTC...
Hell even coke speeds up my senses so much that it calms my head down 0.o

 

is stupid if a person want to be free and while being dependent on drugs ... In my opinion, a punk should not use drugs, because they either like it or not will be stuck in one thing...

 

I probably drink more than is sensible but thats about it. Can't stand cigarettes..and i may have the occasional toke on the green,but when i say occasionally i mean once or twice every couple years. But hard drugs aren't my thing i don't like the idea of not being in control of my senses or mindset.

 

I've done 1 keyful of coke in the last 3 months, due to lack of cash.
Only a few balloons of laughing gas and only on weekends.
Only do alcohol at the pub or at mates.
I'm only addicted to smoking... I actually get withdrawal symptoms for that including headaches and restlessness.

 

Punkmarr and anxiety...thanks for the love mates

And to...every other post....

I just want to say this about alchohol. Make your own.

 

I blame gutter punks

In any punk scene I've come into contact with one drug is more synonymous with punk rock than anything else: Alcohol. Punk is Drunk is a popular phrasing for a reason. I don't support this, i was a drunker but i was never that into alcohol, I was strictly a drug addict

I hate to quote really cliche punk movies but Western Civilization 1 & 3, is about punks getting drunk, ya go to a show and you will get beer thrown on your or slip on someone else shit. Ya shouldn't be allowed to knock anyone for smoking pot if you're drinking regularly, vice verse -- they're both products of an institution of control you can't succumb to and call yourself an Anarchist. Even worse than that is harder drugs (speed & heroin) which are also synonymous with punk rock. The exception is growing your own pot, other than that any drug you buy is out there to support our enemies - corporate capitalism, brain-washing institutions, and fascist government policies. All the same oppression under a different name.

Now I'm not gonna cast any stones here, I'm straight edge now, but i have done my fair share of anything i could get my hands on. i just hate hypocrites.

 

as far as drugs go ive taken a lot.
lsd,ketamin,speed,mdma,mushrooms,coke,hash,and alcohol of course.
my advice is ,the later you start the better you'll be for it
and if you have the slightest inkling that what you're taking does'nt agree with you forget it
cos all drugs have their downsides,they can be minimal or massive depending on you constitution.
most of the time you'll feel better off after a night on an illegal drug than on alcohol
(no hangover)
just don't get into the habit of doing drugs every day cos that will fuck you up eventually
most snortable drugs are corrosive,you get crap teeth off them in the space of a few months if you try hard enough!
today ill blab about lsd then ill do another drug tomorrow.
lsd will leave a black square on your tooth if you where to leave it there(and it'll rot),acid drops are usually better quality than blotters.
the side effects of lsd ..well you can get an lsd "hangover" if you try to sleep on it,it really does cook your brain trust me!better stay awake(as if you had the choice),and really dont try and take it two days in a row cos you wont be trippin but you wont be able to sleep...no fun!you just have to lay back and keep busy while the storm blows over(lsd works best when you're not tired)
it's usually preferable to be with other people,it'll be more mentally stimulating and it'll stop the overly repetitive thinking you can get when on your own
i do get lsd flashbacks but they are very slight and very par apart,it's more the actual things around me that reminisces me of acid than actual full on tripping,i think some people get it more than others though.
there are two types of acid,mental and visual
mental acid is the easiest to find ,it makes you go mental,you become a gnashing gibbering frothing demon for a day!
common effects are:laughing like mad,often triggered by combinations of words or sounds, people's faces looking like cartoon characters.
repetitive thinking!
chattering teeth,and fresh "lsd breath"
deformed surroundings
no sleep! acid usually lasts for 12 hours,if you still want a good nights sleep take it for breakfast,in daylight the visuals are better as well.
geometric patterns and unusual colours when you eyes are closed.
seeing things that arent there(like leaning against non-trees )
obliviousness in the face of danger
usually being full on about what ever you're doing (thinking saying dancing eating driving etc)
personally i can get quite a nasty (sarcastic,caustic)sense of humour,
and many more!

visual lsd is pretty much the same but it's a lot harder to come by,and as the name says
it's more visually orientated
you get real hallucinations,things changing colour going through all the different shades imaginable
kaleidoscopic effects,such as stones arranging themselves in patterns(while changing colour)
time warping,such as clouds coming towards you in steps(while looking squareish like pixels)
i prefer visual you can spend the whole day oggling at how wonky everybody's faces are...
looking at trees making waves and really flashy grass and so on
you may also gets little specs(or flashes) like miniature rainbows peppered all over everything,
that's more what mushrooms are like.
your emotions wille be exaggerated,that's why it's important to be in a good mood to take lsd,you'll be all the happier,if you're felling shit you might end up bad tripping
an important thing to remember when tripping is that YOU ARE TRIPPING
the only bad trip i had was cleared away by that thought in a matter of minutes,so don't forget it.
i've taken acid about 50+ times over this year,i've had no health problems whatsoever
although i don't recommend people with kidney problems taking it because sometimes it makes your kidneys ache a little bit
the same goes for people with weak minds or mental problems.it could just snap the wire that kept you attached to sanity!
once you take acid you'll never ever be the same again!
finally lsd is not addictive,in fact most people go off it after a while because it's quite mentally heavy.

 

sorry about prattling on but it's quite something to explain.
i havent done anything for a coupla months...i'll probably wait till summer.

here's about K
or Ketamin(special k etc...)
it's a sedative that used to be used on people,until they realised its side effects,so they mainly use it on animals now(i think the army might still use it on battlefields)
comes in a clear liquid form,which has to be cooked...the deposit is k
a small amount i find tends to boost you a bit like speed.
you feel rather energized,and a bit relaxed(at the same time lol)

however a larger dose is totally different.
first of all it's corrosive and tastes absolutely vile.
and your body gets used to it ,which means you have to take more as time goes on
(a mate was making the dentist scared when she had to inject 4X the amount of sedative to rip a touth out)
symptoms include ...usually about 20mn after taking it your head gets rather heavy,and drops sideways,your jaws and features all slacken up which means it becomes rather difficult to articulate when you're attempting to talk...
you can start seeing through solid objects(ive seen corridors through walls)
in fact you go so bloody far away iv'e seen my own body from about 20 meters away,the room looked like a see through box in a big dark empty space.
i've also been in seemingly big bright empty spaces (felt like being over clouds...dunno)
it happens very rapidly and you cant panic about it because you only realise where you've been as you come back,and you can spend a lot of time coming back!
you get very elongated white (or whatever colour they are)hands .*
and they feel like plastic!
you tend to walk like a stick insect(two steps forward on step backwards)
and are usually surprised about the fact you can stand up (if you don't end up lyin on the ground)
you get a "K" look a rather blank expression with glazed shiny eyes(often half shut or looking as if you're blind)
you usually loose track of all time and can completely forget about anything but the exact time you're at
people on k are recognizable for stumbling around and clutching people while staring through unseeing eyes
and lying on the ground looking surprised!
you can take k with other drugs except alcohol
medication +alcohol no fun,well you can but it makes you sick
you can take calvin kleins (Coke and K)
ive only tried it with lsd...which is quite a good mix cos you dont end up in being such a vegetable,the lsd overrides the k but you still have the attenuated effects
on that occasion while being sat in a van surrounded by people on K the comparison i came up with was a box full of christmas baubles(cos of the shiny unseeing eyes)
you probably won't spend much time socializing on k it tends to put your mind a long way from the people you're with.
although i have watched people playing some pretty mad card games on K,they did take it a lot more often than i did,and had a bit more control over it....
the effects of k usually last about 20-45 minutes
that's normally and i can't tell you how the come down is cos i've never come down awake
after the usual 20 minutes of fun
it makes me throw up...and everything spins uncontrollably for hours on end..
the only way for the dreadful spinning to stop is going to sleep
(and wake up with a bunged up nose cos tat's what it does)
most people come down awake.
i'm the only person i know of who gets sick on it..
iv'e stopped altogether after taking it about 8-9 times.
my next door neighbour however was taking it 4-5 daily for about 4 months
and has no problems i know of
definitely not the first ever drug i'de recommend to any one... but it's nowhere near as bad as it's painted
like people jumping out of windows?that'd be very hard cos you probably wouldn'even manage to get to the window if you where in the state to think you could fly
let alone open it or jump...
besides you would'nt think you could fly...
iv'e been incapable of getting out of a mate's van....for the simple reason i was'nt even in it!
've heard you can get stomach ulcers and kidney problems
dissolved teeth and bad veins in your nose.and i bet you can.but only through repetitive and regular use as with every drug
moderation is the key

 

Would K also lead to seeing things that aren't there?
Shadows that look like impenetrable walls or gaping holes?
I've had an experience like that, but I'm not quite sure what drugs it were, as I had about 9 litres of beer in me already. I didn't have a bad trip, but I did think I was being carried by the Reaper, as the mate that carried me while I stumbled was wearing a black hood. The crazy thing was that I knew what was happening, but didn't quite realise it, I think that's the best way to explain.

 

it could've been...did you get
plastic feeling hands?
horrible medical taste?
difficulties talking and not much communication with people?
and how long did it last?
iv'e never actually seen people that where'nt there..i've just "been" places

the "knowing it was happening and not quite realizing" is quite reminiscent of k.
the hallucinations of deathly figures don't though
that'd make me think of datura but i doubt it...

quickie on datura...i've never tried it ...
i've met 3 people who have one won't talk about it but says it's pretty horiffic
the second just says don't even bother
and the third said she had been chased by giant spiders for 4 days and is freaked out by insects now...
i think datura tends to bring out your greatest fears...and the line between a deadly dose and a trippy one is very fine...
im not going to bother trying...

you should try to ask what things are before taking them...that's my standard approach...

 

I probably did, I just don't remember...
Hey man, I'm still glad I did it though, I was sick for a week and I know for sure not to do any kind of drug I'm not familiar with when under the influence of alcohol, I know weed, hashish, coke, laughing gas and XTC go pretty well with alcohol, in my case anyway, but anything else I'll try sober first.
As for the plastic feeling hands, don't really remember, most of the shit is blurry, I just remember seeing someone sitting in the bushes, which turned out to be a branch. Coming through a tunnel that seemed to go on for miles, which ended in darkness again which I thought was a well, but when my mate showed me it wasn't by walking through it first, it turned into a crevice so I walked across it carefully so as not to fall. And the mate only reminded my of the Reaper 'cause I couldn't see his face due to the black hood. Can't say I was really scared though, like I said I KNEW it was my mate, but didn't realise it.
The horrible taste got rinsed out by me vomiting up the beers again and I think I had about three tongues in my mouth, so speaking was a problem, though my friends were really generous and were trying to guess what I was saying and answered me anyway... lol
To go into the deathly figure-thing he wasn't really deathly, just looked like the Reaper if you'd look at one of the old pictures of the hooded guy with the scythe but then from the side.
I was very close to OD'ing that night though, so it could have been anything, your explanation of K just reminded me a lot of the way I felt.

 

agreed datura's a good way to end up dead or in a mental institute

 

speaking of which, anyone ever done hell's bells? (or whatever a real term for them are?)