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When you tell people you're an anarchist...

Discussion in 'General political debates' started by we're_all_dead_anyway, Dec 27, 2009.

  1. QueerPunk

    QueerPunk Experienced Member Experienced member Forum Member


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    Yaaaaay! :ecouteurs:
     
  2. Connorkillschildren

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    I'm only 14, so when i say i'm an anarchist people usually just think that i'm some disgruntled kid who thinks being rebellious is cool, and who spray-paints cirlce-a's on the sides of buildings at night. ..God, people piss me off.

    I can definately hold my own in a political arguement to the extent that I just about teach my Social Studies class.. My teacher absolutely hates my guts consequently.
     
  3. BlinkoChrist

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    I'm with you there.

    Teachers are surprisingly stupid as well...especially the ones that are gym teachers and not in any way qualified to teach history.
     
  4. Saering

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    Ha! My world geography teacher always manages to piss me off in some way shape or form, shes constantly going on about how great capitalism is....
     
  5. BlinkoChrist

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    I always tell them to look at themselves and ask them if they deserve to get paid more, and ask them about all their grievances against the governments....then once they're done I just say "Sounds like the systems working great, doesn't it?"
     
  6. punkmar77

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    I hated a lot of my High School teachers as well and dropped out my freshman year to go on tour with a band (i don't reccomend you do this) but when I made it to college about 8 years later it was completely the other way around...a lot of profesors gave me a lot of respect for being an Anarcho-Punk which at the time blew my mind (picure little puffs of smoke coming out my ears) It was a 180 degree turnaround in attitude and interest and involvement with students...so what I'm trying to say to you younger members on here is hang in there as best you can it gets 100% better!
     
  7. Anom

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    To my family i don't even mention it, i try to not have to talk to them about politics at all cos they're so oposite of me. I've been laughed at for about 6,5 years for not eating meat and we have constant conflicts about money, work, cars and such. Their explanation to my wierdness is that i'm having a too late teenage rebellion period that also has lasted way too long, so saying i'm also anarchist... no, not to them.
    Basically i don't go around telling people that has nothing to do with it. People i can talk to about politics etc know, but they are all comunists, syndicalists or at least a bit to the left so we can still agree on some stuff.
     
  8. BlinkoChrist

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    I want to quote punkmar and anom on this one but I'm not sure how...
    Punkmarr, how did you get so smart about all this stuff, and actually get people to respect you??

    and to anom, I know what you mean, I'm not sure how old you are but I feel you, my parents are the ones holding me back from everything, can't go to rally's concerts or anything, i don't get it.
     
  9. punkmar77

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    Well I don't know how 'smart' I am about these things, there's a lot of cats on here who know a lot more than I do. I'm just very passionate about Anarchy and Equality and I guess from being a stubborn bastard. My younger brother and sister are half Jewish and my other brother is half German one was being recruited by Skinheads and the other two were being bullied. So I've had a ton of first hand experience dealing with Violent Supremacists. I had to walk into a Skinhead meeting and take my brother out at gunpoint when I was about 17, don't think I've ever been so scared in my life! Unfortunately for me I was jumped into a Sureno gang at 11 years old and It's taken a lifetime to undo some of the things that were ingrained into me. It's been an Odd life and the experiences have made me into what I am today. I do know the older I get the more Radical I've become so time does have something to do with it, wether it's wisdom or not isn't for me to judge.
    :ecouteurs:
     
  10. Saering

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    Eh im in a similar situation, Im 15, my dads great and i feel i can really talk to him, he is a biker with the Boozefighters (for those that don't know The Boozefighters are one of the oldest American working-class motorcycle clubs around) and a very easygoing, understanding guy, However my mom is a devout christian that has always been highly authoritarian in comparison to my dad, i love em both but if my mom disagrees with anything then my dad does too (i don't mean this literally its just he has to back her in arguments), if the past is any indication i won't be telling them anytime soon.
     
  11. Connorkillschildren

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    Well, I get along with my L.A. teacher VERY well. Definately my favorite teacher of all time. He's the only teacher I've come across who doesn't talk down to his class like we're toddlers. Not to mention he actually knows what the fuck he's teaching about, and doesn't just drone everything out of a book. He and I have political philosophy, book, music and guitar talk on a regular basis. :)

    And goddamn punkmarr, that's badass :rock:
     
  12. monsieur b

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    Sometimes it's best not to tell, unless you want to spend hours having people pour their often idiotic opinions about anarchism on you. And it's perfectly alright, in my sense, it's not my responsibility to educate everyone. I find that telling people is sometimes a lot like when I tell people I'm vegan...which gets one of two responses...
    1)People try to justify why they aren't, even though you haven't asked and probably couldn't care less.
    2)They try to provoke you to prove you wrong.
    I think both responses are based on some sort of insecurity... And it's the same with anarchism, just add all the prejudice most people have (most, if not all, based on total ignorance) about anarchism...
     
  13. Anom

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    Monsieur b: As a fellow vegan i know those responses all too well. It's always so uplifting to hear strangers say one is going to die from lack of meat...
    Blinkochrist and Saering: I'm almost twice your age so don't expect all the family-fun to pass soon. But, i moved from home at 16 and i only meet my family a few times a year so it's quite possible to deal with them at those times. Parts of my "family" (feels wierd calling them that since i hate 'em and haven't met 'em in years) i have taken clear distance from cos we really honestly hate each other. The others i might disagree with about pretty much everything but i still love them. Just not for too long at a time and too often.
    Haha, what a tragic post! But i'm not as misserable as it might seem here :ecouteurs:
     
  14. BlinkoChrist

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    Haha, well, I think us anarchists we'll always be getting shit, even in the punk community, which is where most of the hate comes unfortunately, people tend to have a more punk than thou mentality, oh people... :lmao:
     
  15. Anom

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    Mwahaha we might be getting shit but we respond with bricks!
     
  16. BlinkoChrist

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    Hahaha! :rock:
     
  17. oibobbo

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    they usually laugh,like i laugh at idiots who are have spent their whole life being told anarchy is just chaos,and whose automlatic reaction is to laugh without ever having thought about it.
     
  18. Shuei

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    Well... people don't take you seriously when you say it (atleast not me, maybe because i'm 17). They think you mean like chaos.

    If you say you're anarcho-syndicalist, they either think you're communist, or that you believe in throwing bricks.

    Ungovernable said it
     
  19. QueerPunk

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    I swear I am going to throw the oxford at somebody next time they crap on about Anarchy/Anarchism being chaos.

    Might work better than throwing a brick lol.
     
  20. jessfive

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    If I explain I believe in collective, small scale organization as opposed to majority rules - then explain I'm an anarchist, they get it. However, if I say off the bat I'm an anarchist, people give me weird reactions. It's just not understood and people fear the unknown. People think it's funny I'm a pacifist and an anarchist - they don't understand how that isn't a contradiction. My family was okay when I was a vegetarian - they can get that. But, being a vegan, they don't get it. I want freedom from oppression for all beings. Equality and peace. Then, what I explain what I want, people smirk at me and pass it off as an utopia dream. They don't get it. People make the world the way it is. If we wanted there to be peace, equality, freedom from oppressions, and hierarchies - it would be.
     
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