Punks and Hard Drugs

[Cascadian]

I meant to clarify that. I know your opinion on "one drug over another"

However if he wants to get inebriated then I would say smoke non indica weed to start with, he's old enough. I would just say hold off on the alcohol for a few years. At least weed helps you think. But you are right I think he needs to get more mature and learn more, as everyone does, but I hear ya, he is young.

I think that young people should make their own decisons without people putting ideas in their head. Everyone here knows that weed isn't a big deal, but just because you've had positive experiences with it it doesn't mean that everyone does. Age has nothing to do with it, he needs to rationalize the decisions he makes himself instead of depending on others for guidance.

[AnarchoStreetTrash84]

My take on this (and this is just me): I regularly use caffiene and nicotine. socially/occasionally I do drink, once in a blue moon I will touch weed, psychedelics or adderol.

Tried coke once and to be honest it really did nothing for me. Just did a bump, waited 5 to 10 minutes and just ended up questioning how people get hooked on it. So, once was enough.

PCP, Heroin, etc: Don't like em at all. Friend of mine in high school died from ODing on heroin and it was his first time trying it. Fucker shot him up the wrong way, he croaked and the bum who did it ran. So, hard drugs I really do not approve of.

Rather do a once and a blue moon bit of shrooms or LSD and just go on a philisophical trip.

[apples&onions]

I think that young people should make their own decisons without people putting ideas in their head. Everyone here knows that weed isn't a big deal, but just because you've had positive experiences with it it doesn't mean that everyone does. Age has nothing to do with it, he needs to rationalize the decisions he makes himself instead of depending on others for guidance.

Yeah, pretty much this, we are on the same page. I was just appalled by his dad's knee jerk statement. He obviously doesn't know much about so I just provided some info and my perspective. I think the first thing I said to this kid was that he should think for himself.

[Cascadian]

I think that young people should make their own decisons without people putting ideas in their head. Everyone here knows that weed isn't a big deal, but just because you've had positive experiences with it it doesn't mean that everyone does. Age has nothing to do with it, he needs to rationalize the decisions he makes himself instead of depending on others for guidance.

Yeah, pretty much this, we are on the same page. I was just appalled by his dad's knee jerk statement. He obviously doesn't know much about so I just provided some info and my perspective. I think the first thing I said to this kid was that he should think for himself.

His dad probably doesn't know anything about weed, but it's just an assumption. It's possible that he's just trying to dissuade his kid from trying it because he doesn't believe his son has the self control to use a substance responsibly, as evidenced by his alcohol story. To be honest, I don't think he should smoke weed right now either if he's going to take 8 million bong rips. Hopefully he understands the importance of self control and caution now.

[apples&onions]

[ To be honest, I don't think he should smoke weed right now either if he's going to take 8 million bong rips. Hopefully he understands the importance of self control and caution now.

Seriously. The young one has much to learn.

[JesusCrust]

You'll get better at drinking with more practice, don't worry. And weed > drinking. This is coming from an alcoholic who just took up smoking again recently. I like drinking more, but weed is way better at not fucking up your life. Your dad is either trying to frighten you, or doesn't know shit.

[JesusCrust]

However if he wants to get inebriated then I would say smoke non indica weed to start with, he's old enough.

Indica strains tend to fuck me up more, but that's probably because I usually smoke after a good amount of drinking. I smoke sativas sober during the day though, and never really get too out of it. He is new though...

[Utopian]

I think that young people should make their own decisons without people putting ideas in their head. Everyone here knows that weed isn't a big deal, but just because you've had positive experiences with it it doesn't mean that everyone does. Age has nothing to do with it, he needs to rationalize the decisions he makes himself instead of depending on others for guidance.

Yeah, pretty much this, we are on the same page. I was just appalled by his dad's knee jerk statement. He obviously doesn't know much about so I just provided some info and my perspective. I think the first thing I said to this kid was that he should think for himself.

His dad probably doesn't know anything about weed, but it's just an assumption. It's possible that he's just trying to dissuade his kid from trying it because he doesn't believe his son has the self control to use a substance responsibly, as evidenced by his alcohol story. To be honest, I don't think he should smoke weed right now either if he's going to take 8 million bong rips. Hopefully he understands the importance of self control and caution now.

yea that is it,he is trying to scare me,and im going to stop with drugs,alcohol,.... i will try this weed in high school,and i will never touch alcohol

[JesusCrust]

But but, alcohol is amazing.

[Utopian]

But but, alcohol is amazing.

but but but,i vomited and it make me sick and i embarrassed myself in front of my family and friends.

Will go for weed in high school if i not meet any straight edge kids

[Hobbes]

I am all for the legalization of ALL drugs, it gives us a clean supply, addicts would be able to access help without fear of jail time and it would take money from illegal black markets. I smoke cannabis, I also use magic mushrooms, LSD, DMT and other entheogens for spiritual experiences. As I said, I wouldn't call myself a punk, just a fan of both punk music and anarchism. Getting drunk really isn't my thing.

[apples&onions]

I am all for the legalization of ALL drugs, it gives us a clean supply, addicts would be able to access help without fear of jail time and it would take money from illegal black markets. I smoke cannabis, I also use magic mushrooms, LSD, DMT and other entheogens for spiritual experiences. As I said, I wouldn't call myself a punk, just a fan of both punk music and anarchism. Getting drunk really isn't my thing.

Straight up bro!

However a friend of mine recently brought something up that I had thought about but never really given much attention. He commented on how the tobacco industry and all the additives they put in the tobacco, what disrespect to the plant... He said he was worried that if weed was legalized and regulated that this same thing would happen to weed.

I said I had never really given that much thought but I think that those individuals and organizations who deal with the trade and handling of weed now, meaning the people who run clubs, who grow for clubs, who buy from clubs, etc, I think that they have enough respect for it so as to not let something like what has been done to tobacco happen to weed. If anything what we would see I think, and what we already see, is more strains of dro, which is essentially a result of human relationship with marijuana, which is a pretty good thing. The thing about weed is that I just don't think it even could be fucked over and regulated like tobacco, it is just to inherently libertarian. That is why it has not been legalized, it would be way to hard to regulate like the government would want to.

[JesusCrust]

But but, alcohol is amazing.

but but but,i vomited and it make me sick and i embarrassed myself in front of my family and friends.

Will go for weed in high school if i not meet any straight edge kids

It happens to the best of us. When I was 13 I got so drunk that my mom had to hold me on my side so I wouldn't suffocate on my own vomit. It's just some growing pains.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not trying in anyway to steer you in the direction of using substances, if you choose the become straight edge, then all power to you, as long as you don't become militant straight edge. At times I wish I had taken that route, but rather I am just trying to help you decondition yourself from slander and exaggeration you may have heard growing up. If you want to experiment with something, do it. It's natural to want to explore the limits of your consciousness, just be careful if you ever decide to use anything hard like heroin or meth, I've lost some friends that way. Basically, experiment if you desire, but always remember that YOU are the one in control of the substance, not the other way around.

And on a final note, marijuana is probably the greatest thing in the world, not just for the intoxication, but the fact it makes people peaceful, you can't overdose, in doesn't cause cancer, (in fact they're studying it right now to see if it may actually be a cure for cancer) the hemp plant can provide a multitude of eco-friendly, sustainable, and durable products, (ie. rope, paper, fuel, etc.) Even throughtout the years I didn't smoke, I was 100% behind the legalization, not just because I'm an anarchist, but because it's just so goddamn versatile. Swear to god, marijuana can save the world.<--probably why it's still illegal.

[apples&onions]

[Nihilist84]

A friend of mine told me that ther wer steroids in medical marijuana has anybody else heard of this?
only askin cuz i cant seem to get high on anything but medical anymore

[apples&onions]

A friend of mine told me that ther wer steroids in medical marijuana has anybody else heard of this?
only askin cuz i cant seem to get high on anything but medical anymore

No steroids. Medical is just gonna be stronger cause it is dro. Potent top tier strains. good stuff. Indoor, so there is no cross polination from males, so seeds never form and the thc and cbd content is higher cause the plant doesn't have to give energy to creating seeds. Just take a break and manage your tolerance if it is an issue, of course there is nothing wrong with smoking good weed, but the thing is with good weed you could probably smoke less.

... pass that shit!

[Nihilist84]

ok cool i knew ther wernt gona b steroids i just wasnt sure
Yea i could probably use a tolerance break haha i think since i started smoking the longest i went without was like 1 month
ill gladly pass the bud
thanks for the vid 2

[Hobbes]

I am all for the legalization of ALL drugs, it gives us a clean supply, addicts would be able to access help without fear of jail time and it would take money from illegal black markets. I smoke cannabis, I also use magic mushrooms, LSD, DMT and other entheogens for spiritual experiences. As I said, I wouldn't call myself a punk, just a fan of both punk music and anarchism. Getting drunk really isn't my thing.

Straight up bro!

However a friend of mine recently brought something up that I had thought about but never really given much attention. He commented on how the tobacco industry and all the additives they put in the tobacco, what disrespect to the plant... He said he was worried that if weed was legalized and regulated that this same thing would happen to weed.

I said I had never really given that much thought but I think that those individuals and organizations who deal with the trade and handling of weed now, meaning the people who run clubs, who grow for clubs, who buy from clubs, etc, I think that they have enough respect for it so as to not let something like what has been done to tobacco happen to weed. If anything what we would see I think, and what we already see, is more strains of dro, which is essentially a result of human relationship with marijuana, which is a pretty good thing. The thing about weed is that I just don't think it even could be fucked over and regulated like tobacco, it is just to inherently libertarian. That is why it has not been legalized, it would be way to hard to regulate like the government would want to.

This is true. I think it would be similar situation to tobacco. With the tobacco industry, you have B&H, Winfield, Marlboro etc pushing out bad-quality chemical ridden tobacco, but you also have tobacco conosoures (sp?), who buy chemical-free, good quality tobacco from genuine tobacco stores. The clubs would charge a good price for good cannabis, while some companys would mass-produce and sell shitty cannabis doused with chemical fillers. Like the situation with tobacco.

Just my thought.

[Utopian]

But but, alcohol is amazing.

but but but,i vomited and it make me sick and i embarrassed myself in front of my family and friends.

Will go for weed in high school if i not meet any straight edge kids

It happens to the best of us. When I was 13 I got so drunk that my mom had to hold me on my side so I wouldn't suffocate on my own vomit. It's just some growing pains.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not trying in anyway to steer you in the direction of using substances, if you choose the become straight edge, then all power to you, as long as you don't become militant straight edge. At times I wish I had taken that route, but rather I am just trying to help you decondition yourself from slander and exaggeration you may have heard growing up. If you want to experiment with something, do it. It's natural to want to explore the limits of your consciousness, just be careful if you ever decide to use anything hard like heroin or meth, I've lost some friends that way. Basically, experiment if you desire, but always remember that YOU are the one in control of the substance, not the other way around.

And on a final note, marijuana is probably the greatest thing in the world, not just for the intoxication, but the fact it makes people peaceful, you can't overdose, in doesn't cause cancer, (in fact they're studying it right now to see if it may actually be a cure for cancer) the hemp plant can provide a multitude of eco-friendly, sustainable, and durable products, (ie. rope, paper, fuel, etc.) Even throughtout the years I didn't smoke, I was 100% behind the legalization, not just because I'm an anarchist, but because it's just so goddamn versatile. Swear to god, marijuana can save the world.<--probably why it's still illegal.

thanks for the advice but im 1000% sure that i will keep of hard drugs like cocaine and math,and im not even that into experimental,i was just curious about alcohol that was it.
But still i will try weed in high school with some friends

[apples&onions]

ok cool i knew ther wernt gona b steroids i just wasnt sure
Yea i could probably use a tolerance break haha i think since i started smoking the longest i went without was like 1 month
ill gladly pass the bud
thanks for the vid 2

Well a month is a good enough break.