Does any one know why Nico de Gallo left Star Fucking Hipsters?

[Sweetnutz]

dyingscene.com/news/nico-de-gallo-leaves-star-fucking-hipsters/
I knew Nico left after "From The Dumpster To the Grave" came out but, I didn't know why. Today I was told it was because Stza hit her and called her a cunt, then my friend that told me complained about women abuse (which isn't that bad in my opinion) and how Stza is a hypocrite for saying he wants equality but, then hitting her. I think (this explains my opinion on woman abuse) that if we truly want to be equal it shouldn't matter who we hit, so my friend is an idiot for that especially because if during Leftover Crack Staz hit Ezra and called him a cunt (I wouldn't doubt that there might have been some fights and arguments) there would be no problem with that but, now because it's a female there is a problem. So, my question is does any one know why she left and if it is because Stza hit her and called her a cunt what is your opinions on his actions?

[crustybeckham]

I doubt many people care about this band here (though I might be wrong).

I also advice you to read more about domestic violence, sexism and male domination. The quicker the better.

[punkmar77]

I'm sorry to tell you this kiddo but Stza is a rockstar piece of shit and you have a lot to learn about what is or isn't appropriate human behavior. Calling people "cunts" in a derogatory manner is sexist no matter which way you try to pretty it up, personally I can't stand any of that assholes musical output but to each their own. And equality doesn't mean women are at all interested in becoming another macho jock douchebag so no that isn't equality ...however please delete your signature Rancid jpg as:

1. It is the wrong size and every post you make will create bugs
2. This is an underground forum and we don't need to promote mainstream 'punk'

[Anarcho4Life]

Stza is kind of a douche. When Leftover Crack was here 3 years ago and one of the local bands was playing, the lead singer from the local band called the politicians of our city a bunch of fags over the mic. The thing is that two people of the local band are bi, and could of cared less, but this still didn't go over well with Stza. So after the show Stza confronted the guy and was ready to get into it. Luckily it was broken up and everyone went there separate ways. I know fag is a derogatory word and all but still. Stza is someone that just is kind of a douche when it comes to his views. I was also talking to another singer of the same band and he told me when they were all hanging out that Stza is someone that is just hard to get along with.

[apples&onions]

Stza is kind of a douche. When Leftover Crack was here 3 years ago and one of the local bands was playing, the lead singer from the local band called the politicians of our city a bunch of fags over the mic. The thing is that two people of the local band are bi, and could of cared less, but this still didn't go over well with Stza. So after the show Stza confronted the guy and was ready to get into it. Luckily it was broken up and everyone went there separate ways. I know fag is a derogatory word and all but still. Stza is someone that just is kind of a douche when it comes to his views. I was also talking to another singer of the same band and he told me when they were all hanging out that Stza is someone that is just hard to get along with.

Yeah, everybody i've talked to in local diy scenes can pretty much talk shit about this guy's antics. Sounds like your buddy was in the wrong though but I hear ya. Not an isolated incident. But hey, I've never met the guy. It did suck about nico though, she was good.

[Caps]

dyingscene.com/news/nico-de-gallo-leaves-star-fucking-hipsters/
I knew Nico left after "From The Dumpster To the Grave" came out but, I didn't know why. Today I was told it was because Stza hit her and called her a cunt, then my friend that told me complained about women abuse (which isn't that bad in my opinion) and how Stza is a hypocrite for saying he wants equality but, then hitting her. I think (this explains my opinion on woman abuse) that if we truly want to be equal it shouldn't matter who we hit, so my friend is an idiot for that especially because if during Leftover Crack Staz hit Ezra and called him a cunt (I wouldn't doubt that there might have been some fights and arguments) there would be no problem with that but, now because it's a female there is a problem.

Wrong. If she'd smacked Stza and had been kicked out the band, people would have said 'fair enough'. No one would be saying Stza should just 'man up' or any of that bullshit. Abuse is abuse. He is a fucking hypocrite if he's 'supporting equality' and being a shit to people. Although, as it appears he's a shit to everyone, maybe it is a consistent ethical position.

So, my question is does any one know why she left and if it is because Stza hit her and called her a cunt what is your opinions on his actions?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5145

However, this is just another ridiculous example of this guy's imbecility. I remember him apologising on myspace (back in the old days) for getting fucked up at a gig with Subhumans and then started yelling in their faces for drinking coca-cola (apparently) while eating a salmon bagel, with chewed up fish flying in their veggie faces. And then there's the example above. How dare he tell people how to fucking behave when he's the fucking worst. Sort your own shit out before getting so righteous.

[anarchoskin69]

dyingscene.com/news/nico-de-gallo-leaves-star-fucking-hipsters/
I knew Nico left after "From The Dumpster To the Grave" came out but, I didn't know why. Today I was told it was because Stza hit her and called her a cunt, then my friend that told me complained about women abuse (which isn't that bad in my opinion) and how Stza is a hypocrite for saying he wants equality but, then hitting her. I think (this explains my opinion on woman abuse) that if we truly want to be equal it shouldn't matter who we hit, so my friend is an idiot for that especially because if during Leftover Crack Staz hit Ezra and called him a cunt (I wouldn't doubt that there might have been some fights and arguments) there would be no problem with that but, now because it's a female there is a problem.

Wrong. If she'd smacked Stza and had been kicked out the band, people would have said 'fair enough'. No one would be saying Stza should just 'man up' or any of that bullshit. Abuse is abuse. He is a fucking hypocrite if he's 'supporting equality' and being a shit to people. Although, as it appears he's a shit to everyone, maybe it is a consistent ethical position.

So, my question is does any one know why she left and if it is because Stza hit her and called her a cunt what is your opinions on his actions?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5145

However, this is just another ridiculous example of this guy's imbecility. I remember him apologising on myspace (back in the old days) for getting fucked up at a gig with Subhumans and then started yelling in their faces for drinking coca-cola (apparently) while eating a salmon bagel, with chewed up fish flying in their veggie faces. And then there's the example above. How dare he tell people how to fucking behave when he's the fucking worst. Sort your own shit out before getting so righteous.

Wow, I officially hate Stza now. To be honest, I never cared much for his fans, either.

[apples&onions]

Wow, I officially hate Stza now. To be honest, I never cared much for his fans, either.

Yeah, but he sure can write a catchy song. If the dude came out with a straight rap album I would so bump that shit.

[KCG]

While I too have been wondering what precipitated her departure from the band and would very much like to have some sort of closure on that issue, I also respect that if she hasn't addressed it directly in a public way then we shouldn't be prying. Granted she could have addressed it and the OP just couldn't find it, but given the widespread availability of information online and the aggregation sites like Google which makes finding that for which one is looking easier, a quick search would have made it clear that the exact reason is something which she sees fit to keep to herself. I also find it amusing that the original question was almost immediately disregarded in favor of a shit-on-Stza fest. Perhaps a deserved one, but one which is off topic nonetheless.

[Anarchaos]

Ok so after skimming across this thread, I have come to the following conclusions:

(1) Stza is a sexist because a friend of a friend of a cousin of a city councilor's best friend's maid said the she knew someone said THAT STA IS SEXIST AND DID SEXIST THINGS ZOMG

(2) Stza is an asshole because the same friend of a sister of a former roommate whose cousin said that he yelled at some vegan band who we don't know the name of. BUT STZA WAS REAL MEAN SO FUCK HIM.

(3) The original question posed by OP was "What happened to Nico?", and none of you assholes know. But you all felt the need to denigrate this poor HIV+ heroin addict who plays sons for a living. Jesus fucking christ WTF.

[Caps]

Wrong, wrong and wrong. You only skimmed so you may have misinterpreted the facts. Also, the evidence (how upset you were about the comments/the Anarchaos name tag that hints at a sympathy with Stza's mindset) points to you being a fan and so may have also misread this as unreasonable bad mouthing. However:

(1) Stza is a sexist because a friend of a friend of a cousin of a city councilor's best friend's maid said the she knew someone said THAT STA IS SEXIST AND DID SEXIST THINGS ZOMG

No. There a few accounts of the incident. No one here has said that it definitely went down as has been suggested but, if it's true, it is definitely out of line. That is a reasonable comment to make.

(2) Stza is an asshole because the same friend of a sister of a former roommate whose cousin said that he yelled at some vegan band who we don't know the name of. BUT STZA WAS REAL MEAN SO FUCK HIM.

No. There are two separate accounts of Stza being an arsehole. One where he looked for a fight because someone used homophobic slang. Here Stza is right to confront homophobic language but you don't need to become an aggressive wanker and, more importantly, it seems a double-standard considering accounts of his own disgusting behaviour. The second account that you seem to be alluding to is from me. If you had read it properly, you would see it came from an apology from Stza himself. I'll try to find it but its years and years old.

(3) The original question posed by OP was "What happened to Nico?", and none of you assholes know. But you all felt the need to denigrate this poor HIV+ heroin addict who plays sons for a living. Jesus fucking christ WTF.

No. The original questions was did we know what happened as in 'were we aware of the accounts that had been given'. There was no question of where is she now? This was followed by what do we think of Stza's actions. I'll edit it for you:

Today I was told it was because Stza hit her and called her a cunt...and...then hitting her... So, my question is does any one know why she left and if it is because Stza hit her and called her a cunt what is your opinions on his actions?

So, opinions were given. Stza's behaviour is widely known to be shitty. The story that's going round is not challenged as being out of character. As I've said, I gave an account from Stza of him being an arsehole. Now the guy may be fucked up but this doesn't excuse vile or misogynistic behaviour.

Hope this helps.

[Caps]

On the LOC blog on myspace, 19th Feb 2007. I don't even think this is the original telling. Feel free to go looking.

The legend of Citizen Crack.
It might have started before, but I prefer to start here because it's so rare that you can put your finger on the moment of time when you go from wasted to blacked-out drunk.
And so: it all started at B.B. kings in N.Y.C. about 2 years ago. I first became aware that I was blacking out when Jack, Franz & Lucky came up onstage to play ¨soon we'll be dead¨. Something was wrong & I start laughing hard ´cuz the joke wasn't on me. I was drunk enough to forget to tell our World/Inferno friends that our band tunes down a half-step, just like on the Choking Victim record. From then on I knew the rest of the night would be blurry at best & we still had a late show 3 hours later. The rest of the night is mostly put together from eye-witness accounts, though a few of those will jog the blacked-out memory & usually allow for a fairly clear history. And so: after a few more songs & probably a good draining of sweat on seat of some sort I make a bee-line for the back-stage buffet (not a common thing, but I assume B.B. himself might of ordered this for the musicians) & start shoving as much salmon as I can into my face with a good amount spilling from my hand to my clothes & the floor below. I know it tastes fucking good because I'm still doing this when the Subhumans attempt to take the stage, but there's a little problem, the dirty guy from leftover crack sees a bottle of Coke & with a fist-full of fish I attempt to reason with the guitarist (all of the subhumans are respectable vegetarians by the way). I don't know what I said or if it was audible through my stuffed maw, but I remember the idea: the subhumans are a political-punk band, none of them should be drinking Coca-a-Cola in front of the sold-out B.B.s crowd. I would never eat meat in front of our audience, but that's besides the fact, at that moment I had the shit sliding down my face (later fueling rumours that I had vomited all over myself, which is untrue, I have a solid stomach and rarely vomit no matter how much I've been drinking) & I'm sure I looked pretty unreasonable & I guess that part of me senses this very thing, because the next thing I know, I've grabbed the 20oz. Coke & I'm smashing it to the floor.
The ensuing panic of the B.B.s bouncers velour jump-suits being sprayed with the offending refreshment soon has me dragged to the back of the freight elevator & I would say that it's quite an understatment to say that these mother-fuckers are fucking huge.

It goes on. Dman, my memory is good - that's over 5 years old!

[apples&onions]

What an idiot... I was there when somebody threw a bag of vomit on him at gilman when SFH played there with La Plebe and Citizen Fish.

[Bentheanarchist]

I used to listen to leftover crack. Now I am gonna quit. Fuck stza!

[Anarchaos]

A couple things in reply to Caps:

(1) I appreciate the civility.

(2) What is your personal threshold for what a "reliable source" is? From my perspective, all I see is a bunch of people on the internet saying "I heard that Stza did X Y and Z". You might know those people, trust them, etc., fine. But I don't know them, never met them, or even know if they exist. Why should I buy third or fourth hand info on somebody and take it as fact?

(3) From your pasted story: I'll assume that that was written by him. But let's sum up the charges against him in the high court of punker-than-thou:
(a)STZA DID KNOWINGLY, AND WILLINGLY, GET DRUNK AT A SHOW
(b)STZA ATE SOME FISH
(c)STZA BROKE A COKE BOTTLE
(d)STZA GOT MAD AND YELLED

So if I'm hearing you right, these horrible infractions are enough to write off an individual as a "hypocrite", "self-righteous", "shitty" etc? It sounds as if you have a very puritanical set of personal ethics, and no one can make a mistake? I don't know your views on alcoholics, but they do asshole things all the time. Are all alcoholics worthy of condemnation? If any of your friends were to break a coke bottle in public, would you shun them too? Or is it just that Stza's a celebrity so we have to hold him up to super high standards?

[JesusCrust]

^^^
Regardless of what's being pointed out here, Stza's a dick anyway. I used to be into LoC a couple years ago, but my interested has been declining rapidly since. If what's being speculated is true, which I would not put it past Stza's arrogance and dickedness to do, he's lost the last ounce of respect that I still, for some reason, had for him.

[Anarchaos]

Name a single awesome person who ever lived that no one ever thought of/called a dick.

[apples&onions]

Ha,ha,ha... good post Anarchaos.

[JesusCrust]

There's different levels of dickery.

[Caps]

A couple things in reply to Caps:

(1) I appreciate the civility.

(2) What is your personal threshold for what a "reliable source" is? From my perspective, all I see is a bunch of people on the internet saying "I heard that Stza did X Y and Z". You might know those people, trust them, etc., fine. But I don't know them, never met them, or even know if they exist. Why should I buy third or fourth hand info on somebody and take it as fact?

(3) From your pasted story: I'll assume that that was written by him. But let's sum up the charges against him in the high court of punker-than-thou:
(a)STZA DID KNOWINGLY, AND WILLINGLY, GET DRUNK AT A SHOW
(b)STZA ATE SOME FISH
(c)STZA BROKE A COKE BOTTLE
(d)STZA GOT MAD AND YELLED

So if I'm hearing you right, these horrible infractions are enough to write off an individual as a "hypocrite", "self-righteous", "shitty" etc? It sounds as if you have a very puritanical set of personal ethics, and no one can make a mistake? I don't know your views on alcoholics, but they do asshole things all the time. Are all alcoholics worthy of condemnation? If any of your friends were to break a coke bottle in public, would you shun them too? Or is it just that Stza's a celebrity so we have to hold him up to super high standards?

You do have a point. If the above example that I produced was an isolated case then it would be easy to forget the issue. However, from what I understand, there are many cases reported on STZA's behaviour. Now they may just be hearsay, conjecture and distortions and I accept that people like to trash talk on the net BUT it does seem that everyone everywhere has a story to tell on the subject of what a shit-head STZA is. It seems that his reputation has developed because he has an 'I-don't-give-a-fuck' attitude while believing he has a place to judge others. That's the bit that gets my back up - he judges others. I don't know if you know who Subhumans are but they are old-guard at this anarcho-punk thing. Even in an incident where STZA was out of order (we can agree it was bad form even if it wasn't the greatest crime against humanity, surely?) he still seems to think his behaviour can be vindicated by his self-righteousness (boo corporate!). Besides that, Subhumans at least don't portray one image on stage and act another off it. That's why I think he's a hypocrite and self-righteous one at that. And I think being a self-righteous hypocrite is shitty.

Yeah, we all do stupid things when drunk and alcoholics more than most. But if half the rumours are true, he's a disgraceful human being. And if almost all of them are myths, a little bit of humility still wouldn't hurt, I suppose. You'll believe what you like about STZA and that's your prerogative but you've got understand other people's hostility when you consider:

1) According to himself: caused shit with his tour-mates that he says he deeply respects. He interrupted their set, yelled at them and had himself dragged off stage because they didn't reach his standard of corporate avoidance.
2) He is rumoured to have got angry and caused shit with other people in other bands because they didn't reach his standards of moral behaviour. (A rumour that seems believe if we think that the example above is not isolated but merely the highest profile).
3) He is also rumoured to have done some highly questionable things that are not forgiveable, even for a fucked-up drug addict. To be fair, I would like to know that the Nico is false because what little I think of STZA I would not like to think of him (or anyone else) as someone capable of hitting a bandmate in the face.