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Holocaust in America?

Postby grinding hault on 30/03/2012, 18:27

This seems to be a subject that a lot of people are afraid to talk about out of fear of being labeled a "conspiracy theorist".

I've been noticing a lot of parallels between the current situation in the US and the years leading up to the holocaust in nazi germany. I don't feel like this is too farfetched to talk about and I wish more people would start to take it seriously. I'm sure a lot of people on here will call me a wing nut.

in recent years holocaust survivors living in the US have moved out of the country because they've seen this before. I'm not fear mongering and I'm not parroting Alex Jones. I'm simply stating facts. There really are several hundreds of FEMA camps throughout the US. A lot of them are equipped with gas chambers. They're are thousands of plastic disposable coffins at various locations throughout the country just sitting there waiting. If you do the research it will scare the shit out of you. I'm not prone to conspiracy theories but I've been watching this coming for a long time I don't see anyone taking it seriously. The people in germany were people just like you and me and they did not see what was coming.

Reichstag = 9/11
Reichstag Fire Degree = Patriot Act
Enabling Act = NDAA
Holocaust = ?????

Call me paranoid but the people in power in this country are psychopaths and I wouldn't put it past them. Why would they build hundreds of concentration camps around the country if they didn't plan on eventually using them? The day after the NDAA passed my mom got an email from goarmy.com saying that they were hiring people to work at internment camps. It was on the front page of goarmy.com for a few days and then they took it down.

I just wondered how my fellow anarchists feel about this because I feel like I'm in the fuckin twilight zone.

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Re: Holocaust in America?

Postby punkmar77 on 30/03/2012, 20:07

So other than drive yourself nuts what are you going to do about it? :wow:
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Re: Holocaust in America?

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Re: Holocaust in America?

Postby grinding hault on 02/04/2012, 18:34

punkmar77 wrote:So other than drive yourself nuts what are you going to do about it? :wow:


That's a pretty valid point. I just feel like people need to stop being afraid to talk about it and try to expose it. The problem is that no one wants to be labeled a conspiracy theorist so they don't talk about it despite the overwhelming evidence. I don't know what to do about it. I just want people to accept it as a very real possibility and maybe try to do something to prevent it. It would be a real tragedy if one of the most gruesome events in history repeated itself because the american people were to naive to believe that their government would do such a thing. They're already doing it with immigrants in ICE camps.

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Re: Holocaust in America?

Postby punkmar77 on 02/04/2012, 21:33

Every thing you are being paranoid about is either extreme right wing propaganda or has some kernel of truth that is exploited by right wing conspiracy theorists...overwhelming evidence of what? Capitalism run amok? No shit grinding hault, it is run amok, and will continue to eat itself... don't get caught up in the minutia of the capitalist death machine, do something about it other than freak out, and quit falling for that right wing bullshit... please I implore you.
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Re: Holocaust in America?

Postby Anarcho4Life on 02/04/2012, 21:50

The only thing that kinda worries me is the rise of the Christian rite in America. They are trying to take over and shove America back into the 15th century. That is the only real tie I see to the rise of Nazi Germany. A lot of the republicans are trying to sensor the internet too. They want to take away our freedom of speech. It's mainly the Christian rite that I am seeing doing stuff to America to really drag us down and start a metaphorical holocaust in America. When I say metaphorical I mean kill off all that is middle and lower class and let the rich guy rule over all (Like it doesn't already :( ). Fuck America, but as long as I live here it needs to be free and that includes everything the First Amendment stands for. Oh no. I said something that is going to trigger the FBI or CIA to come crashing through my front door and windows to arrest me. :bye:
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Re: Holocaust in America?

Postby punkmar77 on 02/04/2012, 22:15

So you are an anarchist that believes in the U.S. constitution? That makes no sense whatsoever sorry....
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Postby Anarcho4Life on 02/04/2012, 23:18

punkmar77 wrote:So you are an anarchist that believes in the U.S. constitution? That makes no sense whatsoever sorry....


If they want to promote those freedoms for us then they should live by them, and not turn around and deny them to us. Like I said. Fuck America. I live by my own rules, and if it happens that some of the rules are in the constitution then oh well. I believe in the freedom of speech and it's stated in the constitution. So.... do you not believe in the freedom of speech? Because if you do then I guess you too live by at least one of the Amendments. I never said I believed in the constitution.
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Re: Holocaust in America?

Postby punkmar77 on 03/04/2012, 00:16

Well I believe in freedom of expression however freedom of speech as outlined in the 1st amendment is a can of worms I don't necessarily agree with...Also the US isn't America, so when you say fuck America you're talking about the entire continent...
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Re: Holocaust in America?

Postby grinding hault on 05/04/2012, 15:54

punkmar77 wrote:Every thing you are being paranoid about is either extreme right wing propaganda or has some kernel of truth that is exploited by right wing conspiracy theorists...overwhelming evidence of what? Capitalism run amok? No shit grinding hault, it is run amok, and will continue to eat itself... don't get caught up in the minutia of the capitalist death machine, do something about it other than freak out, and quit falling for that right wing bullshit... please I implore you.


While I'll admit that a lot of the information comes from right wing christian conspiracy theorists and a good chunk of it could very well be paranoia propaganda, I also hold to the idea that terms like "paranoid" and "conspiracy theorist" are too often used to marginalize people and their observations.

I'm also not freaking out or working myself up. I got over that phase when I was 18, and I'm 22 so this idea isn't anything new to me. I've been carefully watching the build up ever since I first heard about holocaust survivors moving back to germany back in 2002.

Don't get me wrong, fuck Alex Jones and any other fear monger who exploits peoples paranoia. I was just curious as to how people on this forum feel about the subject. While I believe the possibility of any such occurence would be a byproduct of capitalism, I also think it's more complicated than just "capitalism run amok." It's about control. the climax of dominator culture as a whole. We've seen it happen before and, as we all know, history repeats itself.

And as for "doing something about it" there doesn't seem to be anything you or I can do because no body will take it seriously, as you can see from the reactions in this thread. I'm not trying to scare people. I just want to know if anyone else on here sees a real possibility of something like this happening, especially with the NDAA having just passed. I'm sorry but I can't get behind the idea that the government would legalize the indefinite detention and assassination of US citizens and build concentration camps everywhere just for the hell of it. Does that not make sense?

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Re: Holocaust in America?

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Re: Holocaust in America?

Postby Bentheanarchist on 06/04/2012, 02:59

@narcho-Skinhooligan wrote:
butcher wrote:needs moar reptiles.

I think my Buddy Butcher is right... It needs more Shape Shifting Reptilians

I agree also needs more Jewish reptiles.
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Re: Holocaust in America?

Postby @narcho-Skinhooligan on 06/04/2012, 03:10

Bentheanarchist wrote:
@narcho-Skinhooligan wrote:
butcher wrote:needs moar reptiles.

I think my Buddy Butcher is right... It needs more Shape Shifting Reptilians

I agree also needs more Jewish reptiles.

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Re: Holocaust in America?

Postby butcher on 06/04/2012, 11:28

Bentheanarchist wrote:
@narcho-Skinhooligan wrote:
butcher wrote:needs moar reptiles.

I think my Buddy Butcher is right... It needs more Shape Shifting Reptilians

I agree also needs more Jewish reptiles.

Indeed, I shall make a tentative conclusion that the problem is shape-shifting Jewish Nazi reptiles from the dark side of the moon.
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Re: Holocaust in America?

Postby grinding hault on 06/04/2012, 17:17

I appreciate the lulz but really? no body has any serious feedback?

btw i happen to be a shape shifting jewish extra-dimensional reptilian from the draco star system. ;)

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Re: Holocaust in America?

Postby Bentheanarchist on 07/04/2012, 02:21

butcher wrote:
Bentheanarchist wrote:
@narcho-Skinhooligan wrote:
butcher wrote:needs moar reptiles.

I think my Buddy Butcher is right... It needs more Shape Shifting Reptilians

I agree also needs more Jewish reptiles.

Indeed, I shall make a tentative conclusion that the problem is shape-shifting Jewish Nazi reptiles from the dark side of the moon.
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Re: Holocaust in America?

Postby butcher on 07/04/2012, 02:22

grinding hault wrote:I appreciate the lulz but really? no body has any serious feedback?

btw i happen to be a shape shifting jewish extra-dimensional reptilian from the draco star system. ;)

I am serious, and yr confession just confirms my suspicions.
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Re: Holocaust in America?

Postby Lobotomy3yes on 17/04/2012, 21:53

I would say that an ongoing holocaust is already occurring in America and has been occurring since the beginning of this nation. Capitalism causes millions upon millions of deaths each year in the US and millions more in other parts of the world. Who needs a FEMA camp with gas chambers when destruction and degradation of the populace are already built into the system..


Here's a relevant link with statistics. It is from 1996, but most of these are the same and some have even gone up drastically.


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