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E.I.Y. -Capitalist version of D.I.Y.

Discussion in 'Anarchism and radical activism' started by ryan1980, Aug 30, 2010.

  1. butcher

    butcher Experienced Member Uploader Experienced member Forum Member


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    Awesome! So let's just forget about all the people who, due to illness or disability or whatever, are unable to 'contribute' to the production of social resources. What should we do it about it Sarah? Let them rot! EIY mofo!

    Said Sarah to the cancer riddled child: 'Come on Timmy, get outta bed! Contribute! Earn it Yourself!!' :ecouteurs: :thumbsup: :ecouteurs:
    Well, I'm convinced.
     
  2. Higher Vision

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    But being poor sucks, people become socialists because they realize this. The goal is not for everyone to be poor but actually for everyone to prosper, which would be possible in a non-capitalist world b/c the ruling class usurp much of the wealth and resources and also create artificial scarcity. But in the current world we live in now you're supporting the system on one level or another no matter what you do. Doesn't it make sense to make your music as big as you can to get the message out there to as many people as possible if you can do it w/o comprising the art itself? I mean what's the point of keeping your audience small and working for a corporation or something for a living? The D.I.Y. ethic in it's most extreme form seems like a denial of current reality.

    BTW seperate subject but if you fed the cancer stricken child mentioned above enough hash oil you could possibly cure him.
     
  3. punkmar77

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    What part of Anti-capitalist don't you geniuses understand?
     
  4. Higher Vision

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    Yeah if something's too complicated to understand just stick to quick easy talking point statements. Republicans do it all the time
     
  5. punkmar77

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    No Moron, if you don't understand the who we are text, this is an anti-capitalist forum so if your going to come here to advocate in a pro-capitalist manner you can fuck off and go somewhere else with your condescending bullshit.

    IE:

    is that simple enough for you to understand?
     
  6. we're_all_dead_anyway

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    No, the DIY ethic is about the realization of the current reality, rebelling against it, and creating a new reality for yourself. Not using the same old corporate/capitalist methods to achieve some level of "success" for yourself.
     
  7. butcher

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    i'm just waiting for Sarah to , in her infinite wisdom, to shut me down with her all encompassing philosophy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!1111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Capitalism FTW, no! You've got it al wrong!!!!!!!!!!
    Tis not imposed viloence, tis awesomeness!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Fuck the retards!!! I'm Sarah, let them rot!!!!!!!!!!! If they can't contribute, let ppl die!!!!! Yah! I rock!!!!!!!
    Death to non-Capitalisists!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Come on ppl, email me lets continue this conversation!
    yay, i'm so fucking progressive, even tho i advocate a politics that implicitly means the death, by starvation, of anyone not as mobile as me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yay! i fucking rule!!!!!!!!!!!

    seriously, Sarah, fuck you!
    Go and Shoot yrself in the head, you would be doing us all a favour. :ecouteurs:
    I really fucking hate you, cos you are fucking scum
     
  8. butcher

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    And, suprise, suprise, you are one of the worst examples of humanity, seriously, you are scum. fuck you.
     
  9. punkmar77

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    And this is why you cave to the system, because you are thin-skinned and have no will to fight!!! Instead of thinking I must fight harder to change things you throw in the towel...as horrible as the puppy throwing incident was it does not surprise me that a region that is uneducated and poor would euthanize extra mouths to feed, and in wonderful tolerant Oregon where white supremacy runs rampant....Misogyny takes you by surprise? I doubt you will be back to read any of this because you know you are full of shit, somewhere deep inside you know it and you also know that you betrayed your own principles....
     
  10. Anxiety69

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    I may have to quote you on this whenever anyone on this board whines that A. all humanity sucks, B. all humanity should just die, C. The struggle for autonomy is too hard, D. why bother fighting for anarchy, it will never happen.

    If you really believe those points, ten why are you on this site, with people who have hope for the future and want to but effort in to change it?

    Sorry I know off topic, but Punkmar77's words affected me in the same way that this EIY fool as affected him into writing that. And written well.
     
  11. butcher

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    oops, was rather drunk when posted me last two comments, they were a lil' bit over the top and pointless, sorry.
     
  12. AnarchistRoyG

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    Philosophy, Doob It Yourself

    Philosophy really is AMAZING isn't it? Try this one on for size:
    manhood101.com/

    The path to success is a straight line indeed.
     
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  14. morgan_gibson87@hotmail.com

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    If something is 'earned' on the back of the labour of others it is simply illegitimate as it is essentially a reproduction of capitalism.

    It is thus that DIY is the only legitimate form of labour; the only one in which coercion and violence is not invoked and backed by both state power and the hegemony and tyranny of capitalism.

    The following line: "whatever level of success they desire, so long as they have put in place their "personal philosophy," or their own set of beliefs about how they should live their lives, and go about achieving their goals" also suggests this EIY is some post-modern justification for perpetuating capitalism. So as long as I abide by my own personalistic philosophy - be it fascistic, capitalistic or anarchistic - what I then reap from this is legitimate? This thus implies there is no universality, justice or morality...
     
  15. butcher

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    :thumbsup: i'd click the like button if this was facebook, and welcome fellow aussie!
     
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