Loosing my patience

[Bentheanarchist]

DAMN THAT OLLIE WAS THE SHIZZ-NITZZ!!!
I doubt ANY Republican can ollie that high!! Check that shit out! The motherfucker is stoked!!
He is on his way to kick some Recession ass!!!..... Or bail out another big bank or big business, which ever one comes first....

LOL! He's gonna kick some civilian ass with his drones!

SHIT! I hope not!!!

He is already. Obama is a mass murderer. Hes killed 1000s in drone strikes.

[@narcho-Skinhooligan]

DAMN THAT OLLIE WAS THE SHIZZ-NITZZ!!!
I doubt ANY Republican can ollie that high!! Check that shit out! The motherfucker is stoked!!
He is on his way to kick some Recession ass!!!..... Or bail out another big bank or big business, which ever one comes first....

LOL! He's gonna kick some civilian ass with his drones!

SHIT! I hope not!!!

He is already. Obama is a mass murderer. Hes killed 1000s in drone strikes.

Wait I know that... I don't know what I was thinking of. I am sure many many poor Afghans can testify to that sad sad fact Ben my friend.

[butcher]

DAMN THAT OLLIE WAS THE SHIZZ-NITZZ!!!
I doubt ANY Republican can ollie that high!! Check that shit out! The motherfucker is stoked!!
He is on his way to kick some Recession ass!!!..... Or bail out another big bank or big business, which ever one comes first....

LOL! He's gonna kick some civilian ass with his drones!

That's what ninja turtles do, motherfucker!

[@narcho-Skinhooligan]

DAMN THAT OLLIE WAS THE SHIZZ-NITZZ!!!
I doubt ANY Republican can ollie that high!! Check that shit out! The motherfucker is stoked!!
He is on his way to kick some Recession ass!!!..... Or bail out another big bank or big business, which ever one comes first....

LOL! He's gonna kick some civilian ass with his drones!

That's what ninja turtles do, motherfucker!

Stop Butcher I am going piss in my damn pants!!!

[blackenedbrad]

Listen i am not non-violent. I declare war on the unjust institutions of capital. I want to kill the government. I am at war with the government and the state like all anarchists are. I believe in class war and that is an actual war. I dont believe in unjust wars created by capital.

Fair enough,we have common goals, just different means to achieve them. I suppose, truly, if it came down to it, I'd take up arms against the Government, but I don't believe that should be the go to answer for dealing with what is VERY much a problem. I believe setting up your own system is the best way to beat THE system. They tell you what to eat, grow your own food. They tell you what to watch, destroy your tv. They tell you what to listen to, write your own music, or support independent musicians. They've set us up for failure, don't play by their rules. I'm pretty much in the dark when it comes to what Anarchism is all about, I've read things, but haven't really delved much into what it means, and what I have in common with it. I probably shouldn't even be discussing this until I'm further educated on it, but fuck it, thought I'd throw my opinion in there.

One means can't do much without the other. If all we are is reactionary, and confrontational, we have no fall back, and no prefigurated society to show as an example of how to live. If all we do is set up communes, and collectives, and the state comes in to shut it down, and no one fights back, then that's useless. We need to both attack and defend against oppressive institutions with whatever militant or not tactics we can conjur, but in the mean time, between black bloc-ing and other confrontational aspects, we need to be setting up co-ops. collectives, organizing the community, guerilla gardening, creating communes, holding teach-ins and info/work shops. We need to set up free institutions in the shell of the old so we have something to go to after we destroy the current oppressive institutions.

Touche. I'm more of the organizing type, but, as I said before, if it came down to it, I suppose I have the capacity to become violent too. I'm definitely no pacifist.

BTW, that Obama pic is fucking hilarious.

[Danarchy]

:rofl: dam butcher u can always make me laugh
anywho as i dont know how to create a new thread ill ask my question hear I live in amerikkka south central los angeles to be exact and im wondering how can i go about to educate the peeplz here about anarchy and other happenings in the world, cuz with all the religious peepz spreadin ther shit and also wen most sheeple look at me they say a dangerous "criminal" idk how i can go about talkin to them plus im very shy so if anyone can share sum ideas i would very much apreciate it im also thinkin of makin like pamphlets or sumthing

One of the best ways to educate people is to live by example. First, you live in a city. Cities are the basis of consumer, capitalist culture; they provide a large group of unemployed people for the interest of industry. Get the fuck out of the city, even for awhile, get a job with/ volunteer on a small organic farm which can give you an understanding of small scale, sustainable food production and educate yourself. What you can experience on small farms is a diversity of people, we currently have four people from Nova Scotia and another German, next month we have three Koreans and a couple from Australia joining us. Not all farms operate like ours but the more people you meet/ experience the more open you mind will become. Once you've gotten a better appreciation, get back to the city and get community gardens, free soup kitchens, free shops going and work within your community to build something. Expect resistance, people aren't used to getting things or parting with things for free but it just takes time. Most importantly is to work on yourself and live by example, understand what you are doing and why. Don't expect anyone else to be perfect and don't enter new communities without being invited or having a direct personal relationship. ie I am Irish Canadian, I did not approach our local native councils until invited to a local workshop form there I have attended ceremonies and had the opportunity to experience a sweat lodge.
There is more to this but I have run out of time.

[predic]

Re: Loosing my patience
New postby blackenedbrad on 21 Jun 2012, 18:52
The most lethal weapon one could provide the people with: Education.

yeah, just you forgot some people can't wait so long, or maybe you have self educated doctor/cardiolog and 100 000 euro worth machine for ultrasound of heart? until people learn something and until they make revolution, many of us finish dead, because we are excluded from system (health care system, among other exclusions). it is the same answer for Danarchy and his communes out of the city. What happen in your commune when someone has problem and need doctor and surgery? then hell yeah, you use privileges of the system, you have access to doctor and they care for you. but we are not all so lucky to be born with privileged citizenship. so, many of us can only die in your farm, in the city or anywhere else. Many people don't have time to wait for revolution 1000 years, those who can wait, they enjoy in present system and they make blabla from anarchism. it is the fact that with present @-groups which are full of high educated 3000 euro salary anarchists, anarchism failed. it is so last 60 years. before WWII anarchists were hungry and attacked big bosses and governments, today anarchists go to Tenerifa to enjoy, they buy laptops 3000 euro, and they want spreading of idea instead to put ass in the fire. even if someone want to take a risk, he finish arrested before he succeed anything. in avarage every 4th person in society work for political police, so, gather 100 anarchsits and you have 25 rats who will betray you for some privileges from masters (better job, better salary, etc). so, be careful when you see verbal agressive pacifist who hate militants, such pacifists are very good for government.

by the way, person who started this topic doesn't participate anymore. should we ask why?
I would recommend to him to use anonymous proxy if he writes such topics, many different people come to this forum and surely and rats who work against society for the bill of gov.

[Caps]

Re: Loosing my patience
New postby blackenedbrad on 21 Jun 2012, 18:52
The most lethal weapon one could provide the people with: Education.

yeah, just you forgot some people can't wait so long, or maybe you have self educated doctor/cardiolog and 100 000 euro worth machine for ultrasound of heart? until people learn something and until they make revolution, many of us finish dead, because we are excluded from system (health care system, among other exclusions). it is the same answer for Danarchy and his communes out of the city. What happen in your commune when someone has problem and need doctor and surgery? then hell yeah, you use privileges of the system, you have access to doctor and they care for you. but we are not all so lucky to be born with privileged citizenship. so, many of us can only die in your farm, in the city or anywhere else. Many people don't have time to wait for revolution 1000 years, those who can wait, they enjoy in present system and they make blabla from anarchism. it is the fact that with present @-groups which are full of high educated 3000 euro salary anarchists, anarchism failed. it is so last 60 years. before WWII anarchists were hungry and attacked big bosses and governments, today anarchists go to Tenerifa to enjoy, they buy laptops 3000 euro, and they want spreading of idea instead to put ass in the fire. even if someone want to take a risk, he finish arrested before he succeed anything. in avarage every 4th person in society work for political police, so, gather 100 anarchsits and you have 25 rats who will betray you for some privileges from masters (better job, better salary, etc). so, be careful when you see verbal agressive pacifist who hate militants, such pacifists are very good for government.

by the way, person who started this topic doesn't participate anymore. should we ask why?
I would recommend to him to use anonymous proxy if he writes such topics, many different people come to this forum and surely and rats who work against society for the bill of gov.

I am not sure what your point is. I certainly can't see what you are advocating. As for the original poster they seemed impatient to say the least. I'm pretty sure they raised the idea of blowing up the Whitehouse which:
a) Is ludicrously impractical and highly dangerous.
b) Unlikely to raise any real advantage if you consider what happened with the Reichstag's destruction under Hitler or the Twin Towers' destruction under Bush.

However, anyone who comes on here and says 'Let's do some shit! You all do nothing!' are either gonna rectify their stance or bugger off.

[Nihilist84]

Thanks Danarchy and yea iv bin thinkin along those same lines im already growin sum tomatoes, strawberrys, wheat, and beans. but i dnt really have any space to plant anything so all i got ar pots and that really limits wat i can grow
im thinking of doin the ol college thing right now but it all sounds interesting iv also really bin wanting to live or at least visit a farm like the one you have danarchy

[ungovernable]

Are you guys ever going to rise or are you just gonna keep talking about this shit on the internet. Shit. I'm losing my patience. I've dedicated half my life to anarchism, but I keep dealing with conformist who are just looking to spend their weekends socializing with whatever group they find (us) because they ain't got anyone else to talk to. When the moment for action comes, they're too fucking scared of authority. I'm going to abandoned the cause pretty fucking soon if I see no change being done, not because I no longer believe that it could truly work, but because I feel I'm the only one who wants to live in complete freedom. I love all of yall Punks, but I also fucking hate yall.

Coming from someone named "40oz punk" .......... pretty ironic