Is Punk Dying?

[RoachPunk]

for ages i have been told that i need to change because punk has died! Punk will infact never die! stand up and fight for punk! anyone else with me?

[xhdrx]

nope, you're on your own. bye.

[Ammon]

punk is so so dead, but i don't care i still listen to it. every time there is a ''punk rivel'' (much like ska rivivel) it turns out horrendous.

[Veganarchy]

This debate has been going on since the 80's...

As long as punx play unly music and stick it to the man, as long will punk lives.

Ideas are bulletproof...or something.

[Anarcho4Life]

The skinheads where I use to live would say "Punk is dead so shave your head". Of course they were kidding around. I don't think it's dead. It's something that will live on as long as some pissed off kid out there has a guitar. Believe what you will but it's here to stay.

[Ivanovich]

People die, ideas don't.

[VeganShteve]

Think of all the things you can regard as "punk" - stuff like working towards self-sufficiency, making fun music for people rather than art critics, building community, organising low-key fun events for a bunch of like-minded people, resistance to oppression, and so on and so on. Even if punk rock and its scenes were to be obliterated from all memory tomorrow, these things will endure, so there is forever part of the human spirit that's punk as fuck.

[Sti]

punk.... ........... how??

[Nevermindthebollocks]

Punk is not dead. Not even mainstream interest in Punk in punk is dead (pop punk bands that sing about politics such as Green Day are still punks). It has simply changed and simmered down a little bit just like rock as a whole. But it is receding, I play the guitar and I want to start a punk band but the only punk anyone my age knows it seems is My Chemical Romance and they won't even play that with me.

[(P)(E)(A)sNcarrots]

Punk's not dead, it's in the bathroom doing its hair hahaha nah i'm kiddin.

This is my own opinion and mine alone. I think punk is dead only if you think it's "dead". That's what I take from all of this for the most part anyway. It lies within yourself. The music is just a bi-product of what everyone in this subculture of ours is feeling. The fashion is simply a bonus to help further express our anti conventional/anti capitalistic beliefs. It's things like those that help keep it unified. Even if you come from a place where you're literally the only punk in town, there's a whole world that still has it's few die hards. I really don't think punk is goin anywhere. But like I said, that's just me. If you catch my drift.

[nclpw]

you`re right, people die, not ideas. but I disagree with the whole anti-fashion thing that the movement claims to be about(well a big part of it anyway). even punks have their own weird standards of beauty(tattoos, piercings, being smelly etc) it feels like a big part of the "scene" has fallen victim to a hierarchy based on coolness that in the end revolves around judging people based on what they own or how their bodies are shaped and i fucking hate it.
then again its like that in any "scene". you could spend hours on end dyeing your hair or studding your clothes but still be just like everybody else.

its not dead though, thats a bit harsh or even stupid to say when you`re a punk yourself. doesn`t really make sense. what is punk to you if its dead? is it becoming some sort of rockabilly nostalgic thing where you pretend you`re living in the 80`s?

it depends why you think its dead, is it because the music doesn`t sound the same?
edit: this might just have been a bad excuse for me to rant.

[morethanfights]

what i get more from people is "youre not in high school anymore, why do you still look like/listen to that...." or something along the lines of I should have grown outta it. more so then people trying to tell me "punk is dead"

[nclpw]

haha, thats just stupid, thinking you have to look a certain way just because you`re not 15 anymore.
yeah most people that say that have no clue about it in my experience, i can`t take them seriously.

[Epidemic]

Really, it boils down to one of the greatest expressions of our generation:

Haters gonna hate

[xXZenyattaXx]

Eh, first we'd have to figure out "What is punk?" and then we'll know if it can die or not... As fer now, who cares? Be your fucking self, wear whatever the fuck you want, if you think it's cool. Make n listen to whatever the fuck pleases you most... whether that be Conflict or Metallica or Pink Floyd..... after all, who gives a fat shit really about you but you?

[Harrison]

AW...PUNK, NO, NO, PUNK! GOD...DAMNIT PUNK, AHUH AHUH

[nclpw]

yes, its over now. might as well start dumping my music.

[Dave Samsara]

I always considered punk to be an attitude first and music second, and fashion.... well!! I stopped 'looking' like a punk over 20 years ago, and it seems to me many of the youngsters nowadays who 'look' punk dont have the attitude. Musically i'll listen to all sorts of stuff. But the attitude remains, but am I a punk? Does it matter??!!

[Spike, one of many]

I also consider it to be an attitude and the music and clothes are just a reflection of the attitude. I know some people who don't even listen to the music but they have that attitude, so in my eyes I see them as punks.

[owedaliving123]

I think that as long as their are people out there playing punk punk music (whatever form), creating zines, putting on shows, questioning authority then punk will never die