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Crust Punk music?

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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby Veganarchy on 21/10/2010, 22:42

Rabbit wrote:Mob 47
Totalitär
Kaaos
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These groups listed above all fit more into the category of raw punk much more than "crust....


Yeah, I agree. The reason why I posted theese bands were because they had a strong influence on the creation of crustpunk, just like D-beat and anarchopunk bands had. But like wrote before, today crust is a term that covers a lot of different styles.
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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby jjk3546 on 22/10/2010, 02:52

Crust is an excuse to get fucked up constantly, listen to metal, and not shower. I should know cause that's me. Who wants a quarter pounder with cheese and a forty?

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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby JesusCrust on 22/10/2010, 07:59

jjk3546 wrote:Crust is an excuse to get fucked up constantly, listen to metal, and not shower. I should know cause that's me. Who wants a quarter pounder with cheese and a forty?


I almost want to stab you with the steak knife I haven't used it a while.

Is crust just "punk rock" glam to you? Getting wasted and caring about people is all the jazz!
Cheese and a 40.

Fuck activism. Fuck getting involved in things,

I hate how the idea of crust is underage inconsiderate apathetic hippie kids with mohawks, begging for you cash so they can drink, and not giving a fuck about anyone else...
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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby KAAOS-82 on 22/10/2010, 20:26

Crust punk is the new emo :rofl: :rofl:
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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby jjk3546 on 22/10/2010, 20:54

Looks like somebody missed the joke. JesusCrust, I'm lookin' at you. Get a fuckin' sense of humor. And KAAOS 82; how is it that you know the background of everybody that you would consider crust? Some of the fuckin' people on this site...

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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby JesusCrust on 22/10/2010, 21:12

Sorry, I was a little drunk last night when I wrote that. That's a little ironic eh?
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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby jjk3546 on 22/10/2010, 22:22

Ha. Right on. As long as ya weren't eating a quarter pounder with cheese too... :D

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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby JesusCrust on 22/10/2010, 23:26

I think i'd puke if I did ^^
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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby KAAOS-82 on 23/10/2010, 00:19

Why would anyone want to listen to hippies playing death metal........ blaahhhhh
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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby Rabbit on 23/10/2010, 04:43

Veganarchy wrote:
Rabbit wrote:Mob 47
Totalitär
Kaaos
Avskum

These groups listed above all fit more into the category of raw punk much more than "crust....


Yeah, I agree. The reason why I posted theese bands were because they had a strong influence on the creation of crustpunk, just like D-beat and anarchopunk bands had. But like wrote before, today crust is a term that covers a lot of different styles.

My problem with them getting lumped in with current crust is that bands like those are the main inspiration for the music I play, which sure as shit isn't crust, and a lot of people resent raw punk getting thrown in with modern crust, which is for me a pretty mixed bag.
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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby Veganarchy on 24/10/2010, 12:03

See your point, but he didn't just asked for crustbands, but also for some more information about the crust genrer. So I thought it would make sense to throw in some early bands that influenced the style. I wouldn't call the bands you mentionted crust either, coz it is rawpunk/käng. But I also wouldn't call bands like Aus-rotten, Contravene and Detestation Crust. I think there is a lot of "mordern" anarcho/HC punkbands that are much influenced by crust, rawpunk and D-beat (and vice versa), so it can be pretty hard sometimes to come up with a genrer-label that fits 100%.
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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby seitan on 24/10/2010, 15:04

Rabbit wrote:
JesusCrust wrote:Doesn't matter what genre you play, or who you influenced, if you wear something that obviously came about due to suffering, someone passionate about their beliefs will hassle you. Vegans/ crusties/ animal liberationists and leather, etc. Tell me you don't hassle capitalists, or get in any deep conversations/ arguments with people outside APN because you know they're just down right wrong.

There's a difference between educating and hassling. Hassling makes the other person far less likely to change. I try to have intelligent conversations about things like capitalism and imperialism because I want to change minds. I'm willing to listen to animal rights advocates, and I agree with many of their opinions, but if they would rather be elitist than inclusive, that's their problem, not mine.

Besides, don't you think its a LITTLE funny when someone wearing a Discharge shirt showing a guy with a leather jacket gives me shit for MY leather jacket?


the meat and dairy industry isnt apart of capitalism.


or is it?

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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby Rabbit on 24/10/2010, 15:07

seitan wrote:
Rabbit wrote:
JesusCrust wrote:Doesn't matter what genre you play, or who you influenced, if you wear something that obviously came about due to suffering, someone passionate about their beliefs will hassle you. Vegans/ crusties/ animal liberationists and leather, etc. Tell me you don't hassle capitalists, or get in any deep conversations/ arguments with people outside APN because you know they're just down right wrong.

There's a difference between educating and hassling. Hassling makes the other person far less likely to change. I try to have intelligent conversations about things like capitalism and imperialism because I want to change minds. I'm willing to listen to animal rights advocates, and I agree with many of their opinions, but if they would rather be elitist than inclusive, that's their problem, not mine.

Besides, don't you think its a LITTLE funny when someone wearing a Discharge shirt showing a guy with a leather jacket gives me shit for MY leather jacket?


the meat and dairy industry isnt apart of capitalism.


or is it?

Yet meat and dairy would still be consumed in a non-capitalist system, so I don't see what point you're trying to make.
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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby Corporate Deathburger on 24/10/2010, 15:09

Dystopia? \m/
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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby seitan on 24/10/2010, 15:14

Yet meat and dairy would still be consumed in a non-capitalist system, so I don't see what point you're trying to make.

is this non capitalist system an "anarchist" system? anarchists shouldnt be eating meat.

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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby Anxiety69 on 24/10/2010, 20:31


the meat and dairy industry isnt apart of capitalism.



You are kidding right? The meat industry, all the fast food companies and supermarket chains etc. aren't corporate? The dairy industry as well? That is one of the dumbest statements i've read on this site, and there have been some doozies.
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Re: Crust Punk music?

Postby KAAOS-82 on 24/10/2010, 21:14

eat a juicy steak and harden up!

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Postby Derek Danger on 25/10/2010, 10:02

KAAOS-82 wrote:eat a juicy steak and harden up!

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Postby New Face In Hell on 25/10/2010, 12:29

KAAOS-82 wrote:eat a juicy steak and harden up!

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That reminds me of this commercial:
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Crust (geology)
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Geologic provinces of the world (USGS)
Shield
Platform
Orogen
Basin
Large igneous province
Extended crust
Oceanic crust:
0–20 Ma
20–65 Ma
>65 Ma
In geology, a crust is the outermost solid shell of a rocky planet or moon, which is chemically distinct from the underlying mantle. The crusts of Earth, our Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Io, and other planetary bodies have been generated largely by igneous processes, and these crusts are richer in incompatible elements than their respective mantles.
Contents [hide]
1 Earth's crust
1.1 Composition of the continental crust
2 Moon's crust
3 References
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Earth cutaway from core to exosphere.
The crust of the Earth is composed of a great variety of igneous, metamorphic, and sedimentary rocks. The crust is underlain by the mantle. The upper part of the mantle is composed mostly of peridotite, a rock denser than rocks common in the overlying crust. The boundary between the crust and mantle is conventionally placed at the Mohorovičić discontinuity, a boundary defined by a contrast in seismic velocity. Earth's crust occupies less than 1% of Earth's volume.
The oceanic crust of the sheet is different from its continental crust. The oceanic crust is 5 km (3 mi) to 10 km (6 mi) thick[1] and is composed primarily of basalt, diabase, and gabbro. The continental crust is typically from 30 km (20 mi) to 50 km (30 mi) thick, and is mostly composed of slightly less dense rocks than those of the oceanic crust. Some of these less dense rocks, such as granite, are common in the continental crust but rare to absent in the oceanic crust. Both the continental and oceanic crust "float" on the mantle. Because the continental crust is thicker, it extends both above and below the oceanic crust, much like a large iceberg floating next to smaller one. (The slightly lighter density of felsic continental rock compared to basaltic ocean rock also contributes to the higher relative elevation of the top of the continental crust.) Because the top of the continental crust is above that of the oceanic, water runs off the continents and collects above the oceanic crust. The continental crust and the oceanic crust are sometimes called sial and sima respectively. Due to the change in velocity of seismic waves it is believed that on continents at a certain depth sial becomes close in its physical properties to sima and the dividing line is called Conrad discontinuity.
The temperature of the crust increases with depth, reaching values typically in the range from about 200°C (392°F) to 400°C (752°F) at the boundary with the underlying mantle. The crust and underlying relatively rigid mantle make up the lithosphere. Because of convection in the underlying plastic (although non-molten) upper mantle and asthenosphere, the lithosphere is broken into tectonic plates that move. The temperature increases by as much as 30°C (about 50°F) for every kilometer locally in the upper part of the crust, but the geothermal gradient is smaller in deeper crust.[2]


Plates in the crust of the earth, according to the plate tectonics theory

Partly by analogy to what is known about our Moon, Earth is considered to have differentiated from an aggregate of planetesimals into its core, mantle and crust within about 100 million years of the formation of the planet, 4.6 billion years ago. The primordial crust was very thin, and was probably recycled by much more vigorous plate tectonics and destroyed by significant asteroid impacts, which were much more common in the early stages of the solar system.
The Earth has probably always had some form of basaltic crust, but the age of the oldest oceanic crust today is only about 200 million years. In contrast, the bulk of the continental crust is much older. The oldest continental crustal rocks on Earth have ages in the range from about 3.7 to 4.28 billion years [3][4] and have been found in the Narryer Gneiss Terrane in Western Australia, in the Acasta Gneiss in the Northwest Territories on the Canadian Shield, and on other cratonic regions such as those on the Fennoscandian Shield. A few zircons with ages as great as 4.3 billion years have been found in the Narryer Gneiss Terrane.
The average age of the current Earth's continental crust has been estimated to be about 2.0 billion years.[5] Most crustal rocks formed before 2.5 billion years ago are located in cratons. Such old continental crust and the underlying mantle asthenosphere are less dense than elsewhere in the earth and so are not readily destroyed by subduction. Formation of new continental crust is linked to periods of intense orogeny or mountain building; these periods coincide with the formation of the supercontinents such as Rodinia, Pangaea and Gondwana. The crust forms in part by aggregation of island arcs including granite and metamorphic fold belts, and it is preserved in part by depletion of the underlying mantle to form buoyant lithospheric mantle.
[edit]Composition of the continental crust
Main article: Abundance of elements in Earth's crust


Abundance (atom fraction) of the chemical elements in Earth's upper continental crust as a function of atomic number.
This table shows the abundance of elements in Earth's crust. Numbers show percentage in mass. The continental crust has an average composition similar to that of the igneous rock, andesite. The composition tabulated below and the following discussion are based largely on the summary by Rudnick and Gao (2003).[6] Continental crust is enriched in incompatible elements compared to the basaltic ocean crust and much enriched compared to the underlying mantle. Although the continental crust comprises only about 0.6 weight percent of the silicate Earth, it contains 20% to 70% of the incompatible elements.
Oxide Percent
SiO2 60.6
Al2O3 15.9
CaO 6.4
MgO 4.7
Na2O 3.1
Fe as FeO 6.7
K2O 1.8
TiO2 0.7
P2O5 0.1
All the other constituents except water occur only in very small quantities, and total less than 1%. Estimates of average density for the upper crust range between 2.69 g/cm3 and 2.74 g/cm3 and for lower crust between 3.0 g/cm3 and 3.25 g/cm3[7].
A more detailed and comprehensive list of elemental composition for the upper crust is given in the main article abundance of elements in Earth's crust.

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