The casualties? HA!

[melodie]

ahhh damnn .. It makes me really sad. I really liked them back in the days .. ass suckers

[KAAOS-82]

Their first seven inch is actually pretty good but the reality is they started as a joke band and the only remaining member of the first line up tried to make it serious...
Like i give two shits about punk rock love and how long it takes you to do your hair in the morning... fuck that

[Orange Lazarus]

I don't see how this video shows The Casualties being all about the money. I agree that their music, lyrics, and fashion in general is kind of lame, but $15 isn't that expensive for a show, and they're pretty much paying for all the expenses to go on tour with the money they get. Many bands get paid shit when they go on tour, after all the expenses are taken care of and the roadies etc get all their money. I agree they suck, but the guy yelling in this video is just being an asshole.

HAHAHA Great shit, I got one from a band called Acidez who are Casualties ass lickers and are Promoted by the same lame outfit in Ca. They were spamming as usual about their brilliant new video so I checked it out....Fuckin Hilarious Mexican Street Punk wearing an Exploited t shirt (Wattie has said in interviews he thinks Mexicans are exactly like 'Packies' and he hates them both which is standard White Power speech) Total Chaos on a leather back Extreme close up on that And the singer was wearing tumtumtum a Casualties tshirt. So I proceeded to point out their inconsistencies and general whackness for being led astray by lames and capitalists and racists, they weren't to happy that anyone would question their 'harder core than thou' 4 foot high mohawk street cred......

I agree the Exploited is the most overrated band that street punks adore, and also Total Chaos, which is just something they like to put on the back of their leather jackets. But to be honest, (lyrics aside) the music wasn't half bad. The guitar player can actually solo, which is shades better than the guitarist from the Casualties. I agree they are a Casualties clone, but they seem a tad better.

[KAAOS-82]

The exploited for what they're worth made good music initially. whatever they're like now doesn't take away from the fact they made good records in the early 80's. Wattie's politics are surely questionable but they were far superior to the casualties in every sense. I still listen to the exploited regardless of their shittiness now.

[punkmar77]

The exploited for what they're worth made good music initially. whatever they're like now doesn't take away from the fact they made good records in the early 80's. Wattie's politics are surely questionable but they were far superior to the casualties in every sense. I still listen to the exploited regardless of their shittiness now.

how punk of you....

[KAAOS-82]

how punk of you....

I also listen to Burzum, Deep Purple, and the village people, now that's punk

[Anxiety69]

kaos i guess it's ok to listen to skrewdriver also despite how nazi they became later on.

[KAAOS-82]

It's one thing to listen to a band that lyrically espouses taking action in favor of an oppressive cause, its another to appreciate a band for its musical genius regardless of where they sit on the political spectrum, if their politics are not present in their music, I don't see the problem. Burzum is one example of this, Varg sings about Lord of the Rings, not race war. Just as Wattie sings about the Dogs of War, not the national front. Closer to home: ever heard of the "anarcho" band Admit your shit on Mortarhate records? the Lead singer happens to be a white supremacist, he also happens to be good mates with Colin from Conflict. *shock horror*
It makes about as much sense as saying: I refuse to listen to Cat Stephens because hes a muslim therefore advocates Sharia law...

[punkmar77]

musical genius? you make valid points, but musical genius? not so much.....

[KAAOS-82]

Burzum is definitely musical genius, exploited not so much, guess i should have been more clear haha.

[Anxiety69]

Closer to home: ever heard of the "anarcho" band Admit your shit on Mortarhate records? the Lead singer happens to be a white supremacist, he also happens to be good mates with Colin from Conflict. *shock horror*

give some evidence to support this because i don't believe it.

[KAAOS-82]

give some evidence to support this because i don't believe it.

Ever read the book The Day the Country Died by Ian Glasper? Theirs an interview with John Cato in there. If i could find a net copy i could show you but all i managed to find other than the book is this:

http://madblastsofchaos.blogspot.com/20 ... s-mlp.html

not much help really but its true. he openly stipulates hes a white supremacist in the book.

[KAAOS-82]

also here: http://www.collective-zine.co.uk/cboard ... -shit.html

and here: http://www.killyourpetpuppy.co.uk/news/?p=3024

[ungovernable]

It's one thing to listen to a band that lyrically espouses taking action in favor of an oppressive cause, its another to appreciate a band for its musical genius regardless of where they sit on the political spectrum, if their politics are not present in their music, I don't see the problem. Burzum is one example of this, Varg sings about Lord of the Rings, not race war. Just as Wattie sings about the Dogs of War, not the national front. Closer to home: ever heard of the "anarcho" band Admit your shit on Mortarhate records? the Lead singer happens to be a white supremacist, he also happens to be good mates with Colin from Conflict. *shock horror*
It makes about as much sense as saying: I refuse to listen to Cat Stephens because hes a muslim therefore advocates Sharia law...

Shitty argument.

So you wouldn't see no problem at liking a painting by adolf hitler (he was a painter before he became a dictator) as long as there are not politics present in his arts ?

Burzum lead singer is a white power activist who did racist crime, how the hell can you support this bullshit. Ian Stuart made a psychobilly band, would you listen to it ? Or would you buy the bands sponsorised by the National Alliance or the National Front if they aren't talking about politics in the lyrics ?

Either way, with or without politics in the lyrics - you are still encouraging your ennemies.

And i'm not even talking about the last phrase, what the fuck is that ? Sounds like an argument i hear from nazis, usually.... Because someone is muslim doesn't means he advocates Sharia law, this is a big amalgam. First start by making the difference between muslim and radical islamist. And next, this is a shitty argument. Keny Arkana believe in god and yet she is the most famous anarchist rap artist in France.

[ungovernable]

The exploited for what they're worth made good music initially. whatever they're like now doesn't take away from the fact they made good records in the early 80's. Wattie's politics are surely questionable but they were far superior to the casualties in every sense. I still listen to the exploited regardless of their shittiness now.

Both are fucking shitty but exploited is even worse, at least the casualties aren't friend with nazis.

You still listen to them and you know they are shitty, wow that's fucking stupid.

Hey dude guess what, i know avril lavigne and blink182 is shitty but oh well i still listen to them

[punkmar77]

I am friends with Colin Jerwood, why don't I just ask him...

the following was E-mailed to Colin....

Titled Post: Clarification

Colin this was posted on http://www.anarcho-punk.net...

"KAAOS-82 wrote:It's one thing to listen to a band that lyrically espouses taking action in favor of an oppressive cause, its another to appreciate a band for its musical genius regardless of where they sit on the political spectrum, if their politics are not present in their music, I don't see the problem. Burzum is one example of this, Varg sings about Lord of the Rings, not race war. Just as Wattie sings about the Dogs of War, not the national front. Closer to home: ever heard of the "anarcho" band Admit your shit on Mortarhate records? the Lead singer happens to be a white supremacist, he also happens to be good mates with Colin from Conflict. *shock horror*
It makes about as much sense as saying: I refuse to listen to Cat Stephens because hes a muslim therefore advocates Sharia law..."

Just thought I would seek a comment from you, thanks and cheers!

[AtomicKhaos]

Burzum is also a NSBM band. Granted their latest album was just synth due to the fact that the singer was in prison.

[KAAOS-82]

I beg to differ

So you wouldn't see no problem at liking a painting by adolf hitler (he was a painter before he became a dictator) as long as there are not politics present in his arts ?

Nope, I'd have to see it before I could comment but if appealed to me then I'd say so. Da Vinci was a pedophile therefore I'm not allowed to like his art because some anarcho punk says so over the internet? give me a break.

Burzum lead singer is a white power activist who did racist crime, how the hell can you support this bullshit. Ian Stuart made a psychobilly band, would you listen to it ? Or would you buy the bands sponsorised by the National Alliance or the National Front if they aren't talking about politics in the lyrics ?

No, he was never an activist, and he has never committed race crime, he burnt down churches and stabbed Euronymous of Mayhem, again uneducated heresay. Most write ups on Varg have been pure speculation, thats why hes notorious, much like Sid Vicious if you'd like. If you'd have read anything on him, you'd find he has never admitted to any of it as their is no biography or autobiography about him, there is a write up in a book called Lords of Chaos which according to Varg is mostly bullshit and heresay yet again. He identified as a white supremacist in prison, this is after his black metal releases, he hardly identifies with the far right politically anymore and claims he doesn't hate as its irrational.

Either way, with or without politics in the lyrics - you are still encouraging your ennemies.

How? He isn't and never has been an active white supremacist or nazi... he was in jail and his records have nothing to do with combat 18 or blood & honor

And i'm not even talking about the last phrase, what the fuck is that ? Sounds like an argument i hear from nazis, usually.... Because someone is muslim doesn't means he advocates Sharia law, this is a big amalgam. First start by making the difference between muslim and radical islamist. And next, this is a shitty argument. Keny Arkana believe in god and yet she is the most famous anarchist rap artist in France.

Hahahaha! nazi troll drop right there. you can't pick and choose religion, the word of god is eternal, is it not? Is Sharia law not a part of the Koran? Does the Jewish torah advocate the Jews the chosen race of God? It does and you can't deny it, race has nothing to do with it, their are black Jews (they are called Rastafarian's) just as their are white muslims.

Burzum is also a NSBM band.

He sings about Lord of the Rings, this is hardly national socialist. they're are nazi black metal bands but Burzum is shouldn't be readily defined as one as it does not advocate nazi sympathies.

I am friends with Colin Jerwood, why don't I just ask him...

Maybe you should ask him why they turned to shit after 85' and why he hangs out with Brad Pitt?

You still listen to them and you know they are shitty, wow that's fucking stupid.

Hey dude guess what, i know avril lavigne and blink182 is shitty but oh well i still listen to them

Anarcho punk orthodoxy, its fucking funny isn't it?

[KAAOS-82]

And just finally: Mel Gibson, right wing, christian fundamentalist, wife beater, millionaire.
That going to stop me watching Mad Max?
Nope

p.s going to enjoy Pisschrists last show. will be sure to get footage

[Jameson]

Hah! The Casualties are jokes, they came here to Austin a few years ago and my friend's friend knocked one of them out and they got booed off stage.
I normally don't support random violence but these fucks deserve 10,000 years of forced sodomy.