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Bentheanarchist becomes a stalinist traitor

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ungovernable, Jun 13, 2013.

  1. ungovernable

    ungovernable Autonome Staff Member Uploader Admin Team Experienced member


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    Hey does anyone remember Bentheanarchist on this forum ? He was some 14-years old who posted nearly 1000 posts on APN and kept claiming he was an hardcore anarchist and hated authoritarianism. Well it looks like he totally turned sides from one day to another.... He now openly admits to be a communist and say on his facebook page that Stalin is a great revolutionnary...

    Seriously, what an idiot. I am totally disgusted. He was claiming to be an hardcore anarchist, his facebook was overloaded by anarchist quotes all over the place and he was pretty well informed for his age, he had good litteral references and knew very well the anarchist philosophers. How the fuck can someone switch from one extreme to another and becomes a stalinist just in a few days ?

    I've read a couple of nasty authoritarian propaganda bullshit he posted on his page, he think the murder of millions of people under Stalin regime was legitimate as well as the killing of anarchists in kronsdadt, ukraine and everywhere else. He consider anarchists are ennemies that must be exterminated. He says that we are all bourgeois and the usual nasty stalinist propaganda bullshit. He's been completly brainwashed. He's 15 yo and pretend to detain the truth on everything.

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    He even supports Saddam Hussein:
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

    Also noticed he removed everyone from this forum from his facebook friends (except Butcher lol wtf ? Maybe because he likes your anti-trotskyst side ;))


    Seriously, fuck this guy.
     

  2. Bakica

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    Yes, maybe this is the main reason. Give him time, he may yet change. At least I think so...

    This is bullshit, anyway :ecouteurs:
     
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    15 y o edgy kid
     
  4. Rebellious twit

    Rebellious twit Experienced Member Experienced member


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    how can you support a tyrant who killed hundreds of innocent people in the name of another tyrant...


    Tyrantception... :lmao:
     
  5. Rebellious twit

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    don't generalize please i am 14 years old myself, i don't like you point the faults for still being underage that is both suppression and intolerance after my opinion :ecouteurs:
     
  6. sheep6665

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    Yeah, but I wouldn't be mad if you'd post some similar bullshit, while I'd be highly irritated if this guy would have 20+ years. Deal with it - young people(including me, I'm only 19) are in the phase when they're "forming" their views on different things, which can change A LOT with time, so we shouldn't take things like that seriously.
     
  7. Bakica

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    When I was introduced to this site i was 14 as well. And I can speak from experience, which is not big, that teens tend to change their opinions very quickly in order to adapt to new group,community...And to be honest, I am generalizing here because it is the truth. I, myself, doubted my ideals few times in my short life. And there's nothing wrong with it. Except some people (like Ben) overdo it a bit, and as I said I hope he will see flaws in his ideals as I saw flaws in mine.

    If being intolerant is being realistic, then I guess that is what I am. You can't deny the effects of puberty.
     
  8. Rebellious twit

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    i am not here to deny the facts that they are true, but there is one way that i don't the vast majority of people change their opinions, i devolped mine from a socialist point of view and i still consider myself as an anarcho communist/collectivistic Anarchist ive been doing that for a long time, which i won't really see that changing because i'm not really the ordinary teenager after my opinion i don't live up to the "stereotype", since i think i have found my place that i want to be the rest of my life, but i think i know of this since i believe in beliefs so strongly that i live and breathe this political ideology , but that's my opinion, i don't think i'll end up like a social democrat or a authortian commie or a selfish liberal or a nazi since it's way out of question how ive experienced the people ive met so far in my life has evolved me into the indvidual i'm attempting to become and the indvidual that i certainly hope i end up as.
     
  9. sheep6665

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    You can hope that it'll end up like that. But you never know. Hell I've heard about one guy, who was anarcho-punk drummer and few years later, when he was 25 or something like that he joined some kind of pagan-nazi-folk band. Everything is possible, so imo. there's nothing wrong in being little less serious about young people that come out with plain stupid views, the adults are the real problem.
     
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  11. punkmar77

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    I was a teenage Maoist... :poop: :ecouteurs:
     
  12. Rebellious twit

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    that was one quite change of political orintation you had there :lmao: .....
     
  13. nclpw

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    I agree that its pretty weird to change that fast and all, but he`s pretty young(I don`t really care how sure any other 14 year old on the forum is of their political beliefs, honestly I wouldn`t even be that surprised if he was 39 and changed his opinion, anyway-) I just wanted to ask HOW "outing" this guy and making fun of him is any more acceptable than me discussing to a 15 year old right-wing punk(actually saying it to his uh, face/screen)? Why aren`t you guys getting slapped over your hands for possibly pushing Ben even further from you politically for attacking him? Just wondering..
     
  14. punkmar77

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    Well personally I don't care how old he is I was just poking fun at the song "I was a teenage anarchist", and also I took a lot of time and patience with this individual over a matter of 2 years, he was rude and obnoxious to begin with when he first showed up on this forum and for him to publicly embrace the murder of anarchists as a communist solution to free the path to the "dictatorship of the proletariat"...fuck him...not to mention the message he sent me full of witty (not) insults...sorry but I'm not sorry
     
  15. ungovernable

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    Stalinists are our ennemies. They are as bad as nazis. Why shouldn't we make fun of them ?
     
  16. Kobac

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    I was and still I´m a Taoist monk :ecouteurs: :ecouteurs: :ecouteurs:Such waste of time, 1000 posts for nothing.Choose your words carefully :ecouteurs:
     
  17. nclpw

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    Oh no, I just thought it was a little unfair that this seemed like an okay thing to do and the stuff on that other thread wasn`t, but I didn`t know he was an asshole. I really didn`t want anyone to apologize :)
     
  18. ungovernable

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    Oh looks like Ben RedFascist Swart is reading this thread:

    https://www.facebook.com/ben.swart.5?ref=ts&fref=ts

    Hey Ben we're on an anti-authoritarian forum here, i think nobody needs me to write pages of arguments to explain why Stalin is a bloody tyran. You're the only one too stupid to figure it yourself.

    And btw just the fact that Stalin's regime was an authoritarian dictatorship is an argument big enough to be against it. But we could also talk about the millions of death, the persecution of anarchists and everyone who wanted some kind of reform, the censorship and re-writing of history, the forced famine in Ukraine, the alliance with nazis (germano-sovietic pact) before Hitler's Blitzkrieg, the persecution of Jews in USSR before Hitler even started to do it, the backstabbing of spain revolutionnaries (then you blame anarchists for failing in Spain LOL)... Is this seriously your image of a better society ?

    Now what is YOUR argument against anarchism ? From what i seen in your page your only argument is that communists achieved more than us. Oh really ? Could you give me a single example of communism that actually worked like it was supposed to (as Marx described ?). Remember, the state is supposed to be temporary and it should be abolished after the revolution, as Marx said. So after 60+ years USSR was never able to abolish the state and the dictatorship only kept getting worse. Could you name me a single example of dictatorship of the proletariat ? Lenin backstabbed the soviet councils at start of the revolution and there was NEVER any form of dictatorship of the proletariat , only just a totalitarian closed dictatorship.

    If that's the price to pay to abolish capitalism, then fuck you and your authoritarian dictatorship.

    As for anarchists arguments against USSR communism, maybe you should start reading Voline's book "the unknown revolution" (he's a russian anarchist). After reading his 3 books, come back tell me anarchist doesn't have arguments against bolshevik assholes.

    But just like other red-fascist assholes of your kind, all you can come up with is "that's anarchist propaganda" or other non-sense like "anarchist are bourgeois/imperialist" or worst of all "you're a reactionary !". Of course if we disagree with your tyranny, we MUST be capitalist ! Send us to gulag asap. :lmao:

    And please, before accusating anarchists of being capitalists please stop quoting Tupac Shakur on your facebook :lmao: i see that your music taste changed as radically as your political ideas... Can't stand reactionary anarcho-punk music anymore ? :lmao:

    What a clown.
     
  19. Ammon

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    i havent been on here in a while, because I have also become a Maoist/Stalinist. But really, using screen shots of his facebook page witch displays his name on a forum where you no most people consider him an enimy is fucked up! :/

    So go ahead, take down my acount, (I havent ben using since my political awakening, until a freind sent me a link to the post)
    i guess you don't want to unite the masses or you would work with your communist comrades and fight along side us. But the anarchist movement is dommed.

    My honor lies with Mao, Stalin, Castro, Kim Il Sung. \m/
     
  20. punkmar77

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    Bye bye, don´t let the door hit you on your ass on the way out......

    and just thought I would share this:

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