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Marilyn Manson

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Marilyn Manson

Postby Probe on 04/05/2010, 06:03

I just wanted to know what you think of this guy...I mean i know hes a freaky lookin' guy but he's supposed to be really intelligent and thoughtful and stuff
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071230081654AAPZSbR

I found this about what hes like in real life (the first answer)

Also...I think his music is alright...specially songs like "Disposable Teens and "Beautiful People"

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Postby New Face In Hell on 04/05/2010, 06:10

I never liked his music, but I do respect him.
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Postby ungovernable on 04/05/2010, 06:26

Ewwww, he sucks.
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Re: Marilyn Manson

Postby drfaustxxx on 04/05/2010, 06:36

Im actually a pretty big fan hes a really smart guy and understands the art of shock. Some of his songs im not that big on but I really like the majority of the stuff on smells like children and portrait of an American family. I love the interview with him in bowling for columbine.
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Re: Marilyn Manson

Postby jarek_M-F on 04/05/2010, 07:23

yes, but what's point to care about MM here, at anarcho-punk forum??? I think, there are many more intelligent artists who deserve to be mentioned here... not a fucking star of music business... disgusting, sorry...

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Re: Marilyn Manson

Postby Kobac on 04/05/2010, 07:57

fucking attention whore.
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Re: Marilyn Manson

Postby rude-boy on 04/05/2010, 08:46

meh hes doin his thing. i saw him a long time ago when i was into metal. he was with slayer lol. other that i dont care

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Re: Marilyn Manson

Postby Bunny on 04/05/2010, 11:57

I dislike his music a lot and I hate that he uses shock for shock's sake.
I have heard that he is smart and has gone into other areas of art,but that's not reason enough for me to like him.
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Postby Anxiety69 on 04/05/2010, 17:14

don't like his music at all, nor his 'shock value' but i was impressed after hearing him talk in Bowling for Columbine, and seeing how he was smarter then almost evberyone else interviewed in that film (same with the guy from south park.)
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I'm trying to move along but some roots reach pretty far down
I'm interested in politics and action In trying to create something that's not
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Re: Marilyn Manson

Postby punkmar77 on 04/05/2010, 19:04

Not interesting enough to care about either way... and i think jarek is right to disdain this post...
http://www.shit-fi.com/Reviews/Diatribe/Diatribe.htm

http://www.inventati.org/ingobernables/biblio_anarquismo.htm

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Re: Marilyn Manson

Postby Vegetarian Barbarian on 04/05/2010, 20:46

HEY!! YOU!!!, WHAT DO YOU SEE?!
SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL, SOMETHING FREE?
HEY!! YOU!!, ARE YOU TRYING TO BE MEAN!?
IF YOU LIVE WITH APES MAN, ITS HARD TO BE CLEANNNN!!!!!!!!!

Smart man, music sucks.
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Re: Marilyn Manson

Postby Anom on 05/05/2010, 00:26

Gotta say he's real good at what he does. That would be being him... As a musician, maybe not, as an artist, absoultely. I'd put him along with Damien Hurst and Koh Bunny any day. Then again i have a deep fashination for artists who do their thing so completely it consumes them and they become their art, kinda like Da Vinci was back in his days or some minimalists i can't remember the names of who after doing paintings that was just white and white or only black, they were stuck so bad they killed themselves. If anyone knows any names or titles please feel free to do some namedropping.

Wow, did i just compare Marilyn Manson with Da Vinci..?
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Re: Marilyn Manson

Postby ungovernable on 05/05/2010, 06:27

jarek_M-F wrote:yes, but what's point to care about MM here, at anarcho-punk forum??? I think, there are many more intelligent artists who deserve to be mentioned here... not a fucking star of music business... disgusting, sorry...

i agree with you, i thought the same thing when i saw this topic
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Re: Marilyn Manson

Postby Probe on 05/05/2010, 06:55

I'm sorry...just thought we could discuss....

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Re: Marilyn Manson

Postby ghoul on 22/05/2010, 22:12

fucking attention whore.

And punks sporting big blue mohawks aren't? Just saying. (I used to have several of them myself.)

His music urges those that listen to question things. Authority, religion, etc. That message hit the mainstream. You should give credit for that at least even if you don't like the music.
wow, the jokes are as usually, but the interesting thing is about girl...what is the element that determines its percentage?

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Re: Marilyn Manson

Postby ungovernable on 22/05/2010, 22:27

wtf marylin manson critizing authority ? :rofl: where ?

And punks have mohawk for very different reasons that someone to claim to be the reincarnation of antichrist and who likes to get attention by looking like a staanist.
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Re: Marilyn Manson

Postby punkmar77 on 22/05/2010, 22:40

Anom wrote:Gotta say he's real good at what he does. That would be being him... As a musician, maybe not, as an artist, absoultely. I'd put him along with Damien Hurst and Koh Bunny any day. Then again i have a deep fashination for artists who do their thing so completely it consumes them and they become their art, kinda like Da Vinci was back in his days or some minimalists i can't remember the names of who after doing paintings that was just white and white or only black, they were stuck so bad they killed themselves. If anyone knows any names or titles please feel free to do some namedropping.

Wow, did i just compare Marilyn Manson with Da Vinci..?


off topic: but yeah one of my favorite started as an Anarcho-Communist in the twenties and ended up commiting suicide in the 60's and is one of the most misunderstood in my book, of course his paintings are worth a disgusting amount of money these days, his name was Mark Rothko....
http://www.shit-fi.com/Reviews/Diatribe/Diatribe.htm

http://www.inventati.org/ingobernables/biblio_anarquismo.htm

http://libcom.org/library/anarchism-vs-primitivism

http://www.anarchistnews.org/

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Re: Marilyn Manson

Postby ghoul on 22/05/2010, 23:09

wtf marylin manson critizing authority ? :rofl: where ?

I never said he criticizes authority. I said his music urges to the listener to question those things.

Here's an older interview with Bill O'Reilly where he talks about exactly that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6n5Oi4714o
Personally I can respect the idea of questioning everything at all times. We should question each other, our government, religion and most of all ourselves.
wow, the jokes are as usually, but the interesting thing is about girl...what is the element that determines its percentage?

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Re: Marilyn Manson

Postby Anom on 23/05/2010, 03:13

punkmar77 wrote:
off topic: but yeah one of my favorite started as an Anarcho-Communist in the twenties and ended up commiting suicide in the 60's and is one of the most misunderstood in my book, of course his paintings are worth a disgusting amount of money these days, his name was Mark Rothko....

Thanks! This is a name i've tried to remember ever since i wrote that post! Didn't know he was an anarcho-communist, they never talk about such things at arthistory courses, that's even better :D
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Re: Marilyn Manson

Postby Shuei on 23/05/2010, 11:28

Marilyn Manson has held some speeches etc. about how the government of the United States and the family units forces violence and prejudices into children through religion and family norms. When i was 14 i remember loving these speeches, and they did inspire me a lot into free thinking.

I would say, Manson is definitely a commercial artist, and musically, i only like some of his stuff. But thinking of how famous he is and how many young people he is able to reach, he speaks rationality and not believing everything you hear. I respect him for that.

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