The Exploited & Nazis: They Really Are Friends!

[JesusCrust]

you ignore our arguments

just as i asked you for proof of what you do .you choose to ignore that
apart from posting on the net,that seems all you do. i googled other members on here and it seems they do other activitys out with this forum...but you came up zilch

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[ungovernable]

Wattie to stop saying he hates pakis in interviews.

show me the actual interview were he said that! and i dont mean a link to some page were someone said that he said that

Posted the link earlier, but you ignored my argument.

It's in this interview, where he also admit to wear swastika t-shirt

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ELMlJ5bvU2s/R ... ge+071.jpg

"Look, I hate most Pakis but I like Jamaicans. I hate a lot of white people, in fact I hate more whites than Pakis so I'm not really racist."
- Wattie

But hey, i'm a keyboard warrior and i don't have a life because i found that.

Man i know more about your band that you know yourself, what a shame. I need to explain you what you guys did and what your singer said. Omg.

you say our but mostly mean you
like i said,get a dog ,girl ,man,sheep whatever you fancy and chill dude chill

Like i said : already done.

Now ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTIONS and stop dodging like a coward.

And no it's not only "MY" questions, we are hundreds of peoples disgusted by your band's attitude and who want answers. Take a look at this:

http://www.pirate-punk.net/message.php?t=23783
http://www.pirate-punk.net/message.php?t=3867
http://www.pirate-punk.net/message.php?t=7086
http://www.pirate-punk.net/message.php?t=5572
Last topic was deleted but had over 200 pages of debates with hundreds of peoples who WANT AN ANSWER that you are too lazy to provide because you've got no argument to defend yourself.

just as i asked you for proof of what you do .you choose to ignore that
apart from posting on the net,that seems all you do. i googled other members on here and it seems they do other activitys out with this forum...but you came up zilch

Oh so you've read it on the internet ? hahahaha i thought it didnt mean anything ? And AGAIN you contradic yourself

Look, i don't have anything to prove you, my comrades know who i am and what i do. Let's just say that i am an activist before being a punk and i am way more involved in activism than the punk scene (which i am also involved with). And i don't need to brag about it to have a credibility.

BTW, outside of your shitty grey zone band, what do you do ? Beside talking about "total chaos" and destroying everything did you ever do something for the cause ? When is the last time that you have donated money to a cause ? Did you ever go to a protest in your whole life ? Doubt so.

[skullfokker]

[ungovernable]

That's all you can come up with now ?

So what can you say now that you're faced with the truth : Wattie, your lead singer is being racist against "pakis"

According to YOUR OWN WORDS, this is racism:

and can you plz stop using the word that reffers to pakistanis plz as in my country it is very offensive to use such a term,but i have seen the word here used many times,which some might construe as rascist

So according to Wullie, The Exploited's singer is a racist using "very offensive terms".

Glad to see that we agree on something now.

[skullfokker]

[skullfokker]

[skullfokker]

[ungovernable]

i dont talk about total chaos or destroying shit

Man your lyrics say "chaos" and "disorder" about like 50 times... Even in this interview i posted Wattie says he want "total chaos"

im 48 today (happy birthday to me)

You are spending your birthday night on the internet bragging about your band and insulting people, and then you pretend that I AM THE ONE who doesn't have a life ? Come on man, you're pathetic. I'll return your words and tell you to get a girlfriend and go outside, it's your birthday and you're wasting it on the internet.


So once again you are dodging arguments and failing to answer :

What is your opinion on wattie's racism bashing against pakis ? You said yourself that you consider it as racism and very offensive. What do you think about it when it comes from your brother's mouth ?





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"Look, I hate most Pakis but I like Jamaicans. I hate a lot of white people, in fact I hate more whites than Pakis so I'm not really racist."
- Wattie

and can you plz stop using the word that reffers to pakistanis plz as in my country it is very offensive to use such a term,but i have seen the word here used many times,which some might construe as rascist
- Wullie

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[skullfokker]

[ungovernable]

Thanks for failing to answer the questions



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"Look, I hate most Pakis but I like Jamaicans. I hate a lot of white people, in fact I hate more whites than Pakis so I'm not really racist."
- Wattie

and can you plz stop using the word that reffers to pakistanis plz as in my country it is very offensive to use such a term,but i have seen the word here used many times,which some might construe as rascist
- Wullie

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- Why did you play a show in Bulgaria for a crowd of neo-nazis after they beaten the shit out of the anarcho-punks and sent many of them at the hospital ? Why did you dedicate a song about violence for them ?

- Why does Wattie still have a nazi tattoo ? And don't bring up the 1980 argument about provocation, it's fucking 2012 now and this time is over. Why didn't he get a cover-up on that fucking nasty tattoos ? You pretend that you hate racism, so you should hate the swastika too ?

- Why does Wattie have (or had) a nazi flag in his living room ? He admitted it in an interview

- On a live recording of "i hate you" song, why did you dedicate this song against Jello Biafra, insulting him with anti-semitic and homophobic insults ?

- Why do you keep using sexist, anti-semitic and homophobic insults all the time ? (interviews, live recordings, etc)

- Why did you encourage your fans to go beat up the fans at a show by "The Jam" in a venue near a place where an Exploited show was happenning ? Henry Rollins wrote a story about that on his blog, but let me guess, he's a liar and a keyboard warrior, right ?

- You said that you like crass. So why did you say on stage that "crass are a bunch of wankers" ?

- Why do you tolerate nazis and racists on the official forum of The Exploited ? Why don't you recruit moderators ? Each time i visit this forum it's full of very disgusting racist comments. If you're so concerned about racism, you would clean that up, wouldn't you ?

- Wattie said on an interview that he hates pakis. Do you pretend that this isn't racism ?

- On your last show in Quebec, why did you accept to let the Quebec Stompers and Coup De Masse crews to go backstage for free ? You took pictures with them and hung out with those skinheads. They're close to the nazi scene and they keep beating up redskins and anarchists here in Quebec. They even attempted to murder a couple of us. They have RAC bands talking about attacking left-wing people with knives and they actually attacked a left-wing bar with knives and sent many people at hospital for no reason.

I could add many other questions, for example why do you use anti-semitic insults against a doctor on the pocket of one of your albums, but as usually you will ignore all arguments.

[skullfokker]

[ungovernable]

Yes you have a lot of questions to answer, you keep ignoring them.

I'm giving up with you now. There's no point in wasting more time with someone who refuse to answer my question.

You had the opportunity to defend yourself and clear things up, give your point of view, etc... But you failed. Instead, you have chosen to ignore the questions and insult everybody. You just proved everybody that we are right and that you are idiots. Our opinion is now even worse than before you came on this forum. This whole discussion is already on french forums and your reputation is even worse now. You failed.


The only thing you could come up with is "we don't inform ourselves who we play with" and that's why you end up sharing the stage with RAC and nazi bands. I can't believe you pretend to be anarchist and anti-racist. Any real anarchist or anti-racist band would have protested and cancelled the show if they were booked with a RAC band like Légitime Violence in Quebec. And any decent anarchist or anti-racist band would have refused to play with HAGGIS, a band promoting nazism. "Not knowning" is not an excuse. It is YOUR duty to inform yourself who you play with, ESPECIALLY if you claim to be anti-racist. It just proves how stupid and mindless The Exploited are.

[skullfokker]

Yes you have a lot of questions to answer, you keep ignoring them

no we dont just because you think someting about us doesnt make it real
we have played a million gigs in 30 years and yes we havent checked who we are playing with,the night we got attacked by cowards in madrid we were playing with a lot of good antifa bands but hey guess what we didnt check who we were playing with that night either,why? because unlike you we dont feel the need too .i dont look under my bed at night before going to sleep to see if a nazi or a sexist pig is under my bed? why? because usually it doesnt come in to my life,i usually worry how im gonna pay my bills my rent my next meals coming from .dont persecute us because we are not you and we are most certainly not nazis. im sure you will post some fantastic reply to this shooting down and twisting everything i say..well good for you mate
im off now and wont be back,which is a shame but you are not interested in anything but how you perceive us and how you! view your world , and now this is in french forums , well good .we are playing a gig in france on friday so im sure everyone will be shouting your name and hating us.....i think not ! nite nite x . plz reply maybe we can make page 7

[ungovernable]

no we dont just because you think someting about us doesnt make it real

Most of the questions i have asked are based on FACTS.

For example i am talking about racist, anti-semitic, sexist and homophobic insults (A FACT). I am also talking about your band encouraging mindless violence (A FACT - you're even talking about in your bio). I am also talking about paki-bashing (A FACT - i proven it with the interview i posted). I am also talking about wattie's nazi tattoo and his swastika t-shirts (A PROVEN FACT). And many many other things like that. You chosen to ignore my arguments and failed to answer me like the coward you are.

we have played a million gigs in 30 years and yes we havent checked who we are playing with

That's why you end up playing with nazis and RAC bands. Don't be surprised to be in the situation you are today.

,why? because unlike you we dont feel the need too

So you don't feel the need to check if you're playing with nazis bands. Understood.
STOP PRETENDING TO BE ANTI-RACIST THEN !!!!

but you are not interested in anything but how you perceive us and how you! view your world

I was interessed in your answer yo my questions, but you failed to provide it. Now i understand why people prefer to assault you with crowbars rather than wasting their time talking with a jackass who refuse to answer their questions.

and now this is in french forums , well good .we are playing a gig in france on friday so im sure everyone will be shouting your name and hating us.....i think not ! nite nite x . plz reply maybe we can make page 7

Yep it's already on the most popular french punk forum. You're hated in france like nowhere else. But your band is so famous that you will always find enough retarded punks to fill the crowd - i don't care. At least the real punks know what you're all about.

BTW, last debates about exploited fence sitting on that forum made over 300 pages. Too bad you don't speak french, i would love that you see how much you are hated. But even after that, i was willing to give your point of view if you answered my questions - but you keep dodging the facts






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"Look, I hate most Pakis but I like Jamaicans. I hate a lot of white people, in fact I hate more whites than Pakis so I'm not really racist."
- Wattie

and can you plz stop using the word that reffers to pakistanis plz as in my country it is very offensive to use such a term,but i have seen the word here used many times,which some might construe as rascist
- Wullie

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It's so funny how Wattie is a racist using "very offensive insults" according to your own definition

[skullfokker]

You're hated in france like nowhere else

cant say ive noticed xx
personaly ive always liked the french and have many french friends (none who i think are fascists or nazis) but then again i didnt ask them
well youre welcome to your shallow blinkered self righteous point of view
i would say its been a pleasure talking with you but really its not been much of a conversation . i was hopeing i could get in the last word but im sure you will come back and get the last word in with some oh so fantastic witty comment on how im a retard and rascist and youre so right and self righteouse and maybe be the anarcho punk god hero of quebec. then again maybe not eh?

[ungovernable]

Hey i thought you wouldn't come back ? Why don't you just get the fuck out ? You're too lazy coward to answer my questions. Stop wasting my time

cant say ive noticed xx

Obviously it's not the punks who realised how stupid and fencewalker your band is who will come to your shows. Not surprising that you didn't notice.

Maybe you should ask yourselves WHY punks from all over the world say that your band is grey zone. Why you and why not another band ? Maybe you did something to deserve it ? Maybe there's reason why we are questionning ourselves ? Or maybe you just think that punks from all over the world woke up one day and said "hey let's make a conspiracy and hate one of the most famous punk bands"... There was even a protest in south america when you played a show (see picture)... There must be a reason don't you think ?

Also, ever wondered why most of the anarcho-punk bands refuse to play with you ?

i would say its been a pleasure talking with you but really its not been much of a conversation

It was not a conversation since you ignore ALL arguments i bring up, you refuse to answer ALL of my questions and when i bring up FACTS you just IGNORE them and DODGE the argument like a coward.

[JesusCrust]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

[ungovernable]

BTW, you think it's offensive to use the word "paki" but you don't think it's offensive to have a nazi tattoo and wear swastika t-shirt like wattie is doing... You also think doing "zieg heil" for fun and acting like a nazi is tolerable, but using the word "paki" is worse.... Not sure if i get your point..... Are you sure that you don't take meth ? Because you are very illogical.

[Bakica]

ffs lock the thread already